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Contact packs for winches
Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 2:22 pm
by gut42
Ive seen people using these "contact packs" instead of the original solinoid packs on highmount winches in comps,
my Q. is where can you get them from and what are they worth?
Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 6:27 pm
by turbo gu
beretta on here sells them. around $200 from memory. A couple of obc trucks were using them. PM him or search on here.
Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 9:08 pm
by gut42
[quote="turbo gu"]beretta on here sells them. around $200 from memory. A couple of obc trucks were using them. PM him or search on here.[/quote]
yes they were, thats where ive seen them in action.
anybody seen any others?
Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 10:42 am
by beretta
Hi, thought I may as well post up on this thread. I do sell them and can do you one for $215 delivered to your door, this is for a 12v unit. I can get 24v units also, pricing is the same.
Our experience with them has been fantastic in comparison to the old style four pack solenoids. We have run them on competition trucks (both our own and a mates truck in particular) for over 12months now and one truck has competed in OBC, Cliffhanger, Tamworth round of Xtreme Winch Series, Woodpecker and Willowglen, without a single problem, whereas he had blown the old style solenoids up in previous competitions.
The one problem I have had with the units I sell was with running 24v through the 12v units, I was advised by the manufacturer that this was okay to to, but they didn't cope with the massive loads on the winch, but hey any time you run 24v through something designed to handle 12v I guess its a gamble.
There are people on this forum who have had issues with similar units in the past, they are not the same units that I sell. But they are more than entitled to their opinions and I don't dispute any issues they have had with the ones they tried, I just haven't experienced thier issues. One issue that a person had was that the body cracked and leaked water inside causing it to corode, we haven't experienced this through all of the above competitions and playing hard as well, so I can't comment on that.
If you have any queries feel free to PM or email me any time, I'm more than happy to answer anyones questions anytime.
Cheers, Beretts
Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 11:52 am
by hammey
hey beretts,
can they handle the current draw of two 6hp motors 12v?
can you hook them up in parallel to share the load?
cheers smitty
Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 12:06 pm
by beretta
Hey Smitty,
Laurie Griffiths is running them on his Bushrangie with two 6hp motors on 12volt, he is running one Contactor pack per motor. He was a very happy customer when I was talking to him after the OBC this year, I asked him if he was happy with the solenoids and the twin motor set up, he said they were fantastic. He got one of those Gigglepin twin head untis off Wayne Smith.
I am sure you could PM him on here to ask him for some feedback if you like, he is a pretty friendly bloke, his username is the same as his full name.
Cheers, Beretts
Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 12:20 pm
by hammey
Thanks for the info. mate
Spoken to a couple of guys now that have nothing but praise for the TITAN pack.
and they dont treat them very nicely
cheers smitty
Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 5:50 pm
by gut42
hi beretta
thanks for the info. do they come with any sort of warranty? or the like?
cheers Geoff.
Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 6:54 pm
by gut42
also is anyone selling them in Brisbane?
Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 8:01 pm
by Modified Toy
beretta wrote:Hi, thought I may as well post up on this thread. I do sell them and can do you one for $215 delivered to your door, this is for a 12v unit. I can get 24v units also, pricing is the same.
Our experience with them has been fantastic in comparison to the old style four pack solenoids. We have run them on competition trucks (both our own and a mates truck in particular) for over 12months now and one truck has competed in OBC, Cliffhanger, Tamworth round of Xtreme Winch Series, Woodpecker and Willowglen, without a single problem, whereas he had blown the old style solenoids up in previous competitions.
The one problem I have had with the units I sell was with running 24v through the 12v units, I was advised by the manufacturer that this was okay to to, but they didn't cope with the massive loads on the winch, but hey any time you run 24v through something designed to handle 12v I guess its a gamble.
There are people on this forum who have had issues with similar units in the past, they are not the same units that I sell. But they are more than entitled to their opinions and I don't dispute any issues they have had with the ones they tried, I just haven't experienced thier issues. One issue that a person had was that the body cracked and leaked water inside causing it to corode, we haven't experienced this through all of the above competitions and playing hard as well, so I can't comment on that.
If you have any queries feel free to PM or email me any time, I'm more than happy to answer anyones questions anytime.
Cheers, Beretts
So you suggest to run 24v contactor pack is you a running 12v motors on 24v?
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 12:54 am
by beretta
gut42 wrote:hi beretta
thanks for the info. do they come with any sort of warranty? or the like?
cheers Geoff.
Hi, there is no warranty as such unfortunately due to the nature of the item and the variables associated with them in terms of wiring, current being put through them etc.
However I personally check each one before I send them out to ensure they are complete and in the correct condition ready to use and if there are any issues I am very flexible in rectifying any problems that may arise, I am working on building up a business so not aiming to burn my bridges with people by selling a dodgy product.
Cheers, Paul
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 12:57 am
by beretta
gut42 wrote:also is anyone selling them in Brisbane?
I have sold them to all states in Oz and have sent several to New Zealand also.
I send them via Express Parcel Post and they usually arrive overnight or within two to three days to more remote areas, this has proven to be a very reliable delivery method.
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 12:59 am
by beretta
Modified Toy wrote:beretta wrote:Hi, thought I may as well post up on this thread. I do sell them and can do you one for $215 delivered to your door, this is for a 12v unit. I can get 24v units also, pricing is the same.
Our experience with them has been fantastic in comparison to the old style four pack solenoids. We have run them on competition trucks (both our own and a mates truck in particular) for over 12months now and one truck has competed in OBC, Cliffhanger, Tamworth round of Xtreme Winch Series, Woodpecker and Willowglen, without a single problem, whereas he had blown the old style solenoids up in previous competitions.
The one problem I have had with the units I sell was with running 24v through the 12v units, I was advised by the manufacturer that this was okay to to, but they didn't cope with the massive loads on the winch, but hey any time you run 24v through something designed to handle 12v I guess its a gamble.
There are people on this forum who have had issues with similar units in the past, they are not the same units that I sell. But they are more than entitled to their opinions and I don't dispute any issues they have had with the ones they tried, I just haven't experienced thier issues. One issue that a person had was that the body cracked and leaked water inside causing it to corode, we haven't experienced this through all of the above competitions and playing hard as well, so I can't comment on that.
If you have any queries feel free to PM or email me any time, I'm more than happy to answer anyones questions anytime.
Cheers, Beretts
So you suggest to run 24v contactor pack is you a running 12v motors on 24v?
Yes I would use the 24v pack. IN the past I have had customers buy the 12v pack and run 24v through the pack to the motor and switch the coil using 12v, but I have had instances where the pack hasn't handled the 24v current and the massive loads associated with competition winching. Just my opinion, others may not agree, but if its not designed for 24v I wouldn't do it.
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 1:01 am
by beretta
gut42 wrote:also is anyone selling them in Brisbane?
Actually talk to Darren at TJM Coopers Plains, they do stock these units.
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 10:52 am
by Ruffy
gut42 wrote:hi beretta
thanks for the info. do they come with any sort of warranty? or the like?
cheers Geoff.
We did have an issue with a solenoid due to the fact that we were using it outside of it's designed capabilities. While as Beretta has mentioned, and rightly so, there is no specific warranty i will say he was extremely helpful in our situation to the point where he actually came to look at the vehicle and the application. Although we do not use the solenoids on our comp car (the 24V wasn't available at the time) i'd have no hesitation in recommending them. The after sales service was commendable.
Cheers Dan
Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 1:16 am
by Offroad-Events
I run them in all 3 winches I have on my trucks/cars incl. a high mount 8274 Warn equipped with the 5.6HP Bowmotor and also sold a very good number to customers here in Europe. They're usually good for 485 Amps of load in 12V. I still have to see one of them fail (the ones I sold though). I guess Beretta is selling the same ones (the manufacturer start with Al........) ?
I can only highly recommend them. I will never use the old boxes again.
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 12:04 pm
by gut42
Beretta, can you tell me what these contactor packs are rated to in amps?
Ive got the 6hp motor on the highmount and when i looked up the warn web site it said that they can draw up to 480amps.
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 6:53 pm
by beretta
These packs are rated at 210amps continuous.
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 8:12 pm
by hammey
hey beretta.
Do you have a shop front mate as im looking for one for the rear winch...
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 8:24 pm
by beretta
hammey wrote:hey beretta.
Do you have a shop front mate as im looking for one for the rear winch...
No mate, just online and through distributors. They can be purchased from Mannell Motors here in Sydney.