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I would like to put a bigger fuel tank in my suzuki, just wondering what are some common swaps to bigger tanks?

Are there any bigger tanks that bold straight in or need minimal modification?

thanks

ARB list a couple of 70 litre fuel tank options for the sierra from Long Ranger at $779 + $240 for fitting. NOthing around for the Vitara I can find.

there's a second hand Out of Town one on eBay for 150 buy it now at the moment. looks a little rough, I'd give it a good cleanup first.

Oh its like that is it... I thought there might have been some 60 litre vitara tank or something that could be easily put in. I dont really wanna spend big bucks on an arb one. That one on ebay does look pretty rough

all the 2.0 vitaras hace a 70L tank.


Mitch

ask bbm, liams zook had a vit tank in it from memory, he is on here so is bbmrick.

the BBM zook didn't have the tank in the stock spot - it was pulled forward on top of the chassis and behind the front seats. The whole floor was cut out in the rear.

The vitara tank fits nicely but is really only viable to fit with the body removed as exhaust and crossmember work is required. The tank fits right across the chassis so there is no room for the exhaust in the stock position.

PS every job you would ever want to do on a sierra is easy once the body is off

Steve.

Has anyone here got a long ranger 70L arb tank?

I am after measurements of the height of the tank and how much is hangs lower than a stock tank.

i can get one the same as the original design or modded for extra 130 for either moves the mountings down to push the tank up or even adding more capacity to it. every 1" makes 5L more.

Nic

It was along time ago and I was probly drunk but Im sure some one said clints BOG00R was running the standard tank plus a vit one infront of it.
Never mesured it up so not sure if theres any truth in it.
Nik

if it was a lwb i would have suggested a hilux fuel tank as that is what i put in my lwb

NIK wrote:It was along time ago and I was probly drunk but Im sure some one said clints BOG00R was running the standard tank plus a vit one infront of it.
Never mesured it up so not sure if theres any truth in it.
Nik

Yes, he was. the vit tank will deffinetly fit up there with a fraction of persuasion , without cutting the floor. Clint was runniong a transfer pump from one tamk to the other, but later swapped to an isolated system.

Get rid off the stock exhaust, or just cut it,fit the tank and invert the rear section to get the clearance.

nicbeer wrote:Has anyone here got a long ranger 70L arb tank?

I am after measurements of the height of the tank and how much is hangs lower than a stock tank.

i can get one the same as the original design or modded for extra 130 for either moves the mountings down to push the tank up or even adding more capacity to it. every 1" makes 5L more.

Nic

Yeah i got one...

ring the guys in sydney, 02 49533288, found the tech guys are happy to talk, they will likely give full dimensions.

i can measure from chassis rails etc on the weekend.

Spock

Do those ARB ones ding as easy as the Sierra one? I guess you hit anything hard enough it will ding, but will they withstand more punishment?

I personally think there is allot of wasted space futher forward under the Sierra, and think that a second (reserve if you like) tank is a viable option. Am I correct in saying that the Jimny (SN-413) tank is in front of the rear axle, or have I been fed a porky pie?

Yes it is, but bear in mind that the Jimny has a very long wheelbase, only about 1" shorter than a LWB sierra. LWB trayback sierras have the tank in the same spot as a jimny and it is a fairly snig fit fromt between the cab to the axle. This is just a stock sierra tank with the filler in a different spot.

Bear in mind also that in a stock sierra the rear driveshaft location and the room the exhaust requires both limit the room you have hear a fair bit.

I'm not saying that it's impossible to get another tank in there, only that it is harder than It looks. There won't be much room for a muffler and any gound clearance in a stockish height car with another tank forward of the axle.

why do you want a larger fuel tank? Because if you are thinking you want to start doing long distance stuff in it the benefit of having to stop a bit more often is actually a good thing because Sierras aren't that comfortable for long distance traveling.

In many cases the added benefit of the extra fuel load is only appreciated on a couple of trips. But the impact of having a larger heavier tank can be felt every time you use the vehicle.

Maybe just look at a way to carry a couple of jerry cans for those rare times you need to be able to use 70L of fuel.

:-( like Syd to Fraser and back in 6 weeks Grimbo? Got my four jerry's all ready...

Gwagensteve wrote:Yes it is, but bear in mind that the Jimny has a very long wheelbase, only about 1" shorter than a LWB sierra. LWB trayback sierras have the tank in the same spot as a jimny and it is a fairly snig fit fromt between the cab to the axle. This is just a stock sierra tank with the filler in a different spot.

Bear in mind also that in a stock sierra the rear driveshaft location and the room the exhaust requires both limit the room you have hear a fair bit.

I'm not saying that it's impossible to get another tank in there, only that it is harder than It looks. There won't be much room for a muffler and any gound clearance in a stockish height car with another tank forward of the axle.

Thanks Steve. I always thought the jimny looked longer, but everyone said I was seeing things, I'll show them! I dont expect it to be some sort of easy bolt in swap; but even a smaller tank in there, like an extra 20 or 30 litres could prove usefull in some situations.

Hey Grimbo, I see your POV, but still disagree. To me the main benefit of a bigger tank is the ability to go somewhere where there is no fuel for at least say '80km', and be able to spend time driving around the area for a couple of days before having to drive 80km of boring highway to re-fuel. Yes jerry cans can be used here, but its omething extra to carry, and theres not much room in a Sierra to carry much more than the swag, food and clothes.

I've been seriously considering ways to carry a jerry can on the back of my car for a while now, and probably will eventually make a removable rack for a custom rear bumper that will get made one year. If I was able to carry one jerry can and have say an extra 30L in the car, thats about an extra 500km for me, and would be ample enough. Anyway if an extra tank was added where I suggested in front of the rear axle, it would be better for weight distribution than hanging a jerry out the back.

Grimbo - for me its both, do a bit offroad where there is not easy fuel stops sometimes and also need to get something stronger than the coke can suzuki slung under there. prefer bolt in if possible.

Nic

Hey
IF u are after a tank, i could make u one. i could Get a design together and could make a kit up for the zooks. Im a sheetmetal worker and ive made many ally and steel tanks in the past. It wont be a hard task and if u are running an efi motor, i have mounted, intank fuel pumps in the tanks in the past. Saves running 2 fuel external pumps and a swirl pot, that get covered in mud etc.
Trent

Hey ca18zook,

I might just be interested in a larger tank for a LWB Vitara. I am going to do a 2" lift in it as soon as Just Cruisin' has got his Vitara kit together which gives an extra 2" to carry fuel.

I've been looking and nobody seems to do a tank for a Vitara.... To go from 55 litres to 80-100 odd litres would be cool for the driving I do....

ca18zook wrote:Hey
IF u are after a tank, i could make u one. i could Get a design together and could make a kit up for the zooks. Im a sheetmetal worker and ive made many ally and steel tanks in the past. It wont be a hard task and if u are running an efi motor, i have mounted, intank fuel pumps in the tanks in the past. Saves running 2 fuel external pumps and a swirl pot, that get covered in mud etc.
Trent

If your making a tank, also look into building a tougher exterior, as the standard ones are weak as piss (mine has about 10L less capacity due to dents).

Layto....

I know about that . I know how to do this as I tried to fit a tank guard for a SWB onto my rig after I reduced the capaicty in my tank but it would not fit..., but I have a clear idea of a design for some tank armour after trying a SWB for size.

CA18zook, if you were to make a decent strong tank at a reasonable price, that tucked up well (inside the chassis rails) for a Seirra. possibly even with a larger volume for those who wish or have space due to BL. I reckon there might be more than a few on here interested.

Afterall most references to tank size are followed up with "...but mine has a ten litre dent in it...."


Me, I would be interested in an EFI tank to suit a 2" body lift, extra capacity would just be the icing on the cake.

DiddyZook wrote:CA18zook, if you were to make a decent strong tank at a reasonable price, that tucked up well (inside the chassis rails) for a Seirra. possibly even with a larger volume for those who wish or have space due to BL. I reckon there might be more than a few on here interested....

I too am interested in a bigger tank for my '92 soft top sierra . I dont have a BL. I am am happy to relocate the exhaust to fit a bigger tank in that space. Please advise me what it would cost for a basic replacement (no EFI fuel pump necessary). Its gotta be cheaper then the ones currently on the market?

Thanks

hey as i have got a ute i havent realy had a good look under a shorty or
the vitras. Depending on time it will take and the number of people that want one. Whats the going price for the other tanks. Yes im able to make them cheaper, but im not doing them for nothing either. Fist ill need 2 look a someones zook and do from there. Any one in the Ipswich or close to that needs a tank, let me know and ill do a deal for u.

I live in Ipswich.

Got two SWB Sierras here (SJ-70 WT), both standard though (one with towbar one without). Wasn't specifically considering a new fuel tank, but if you can design something tough and practical for a reasonable price I would definantly consider paying you to build one, I think those ARB long-ranger ones are around $800, or something (too high for how badly they hang low anyway).

Even if I decide I can't afford one, I probably wouldn't mind you measuring mine up incase you wanted to make one for someone else.

BTW does anyone know if replacement fuel tanks need compliancing? or can you willy nilly just swap a newy in, and drive away? Assuming you want to keep it legal that is.

Yes u should get it blue plated, to do it the right way. I will make the tanks, and its up to the owner to get it plated but if u want me to do it. That fine, i have a guy that i always use. Ill come in a lot cheaper so you guys will have change from that large figger. Ill have to get your number and meet up and do some taping up on the sizes.
Trent

finally got the tape measure out, at it's lowest the long ranger is 200mm below the chassis rails...

but i gotta be honest, i haven't found it a big problem, and i reckon it's departure hang up is less than stock.

Spock

Pinball wrote:finally got the tape measure out, at it's lowest the long ranger is 200mm below the chassis rails...

but i gotta be honest, i haven't found it a big problem, and i reckon it's departure hang up is less than stock.

Spock

Thanks Spock. thats what i was thinking with the slope back on it would be better.