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any updates on the new draft national code for 4x4's ?

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 7:44 pm
by mmaaxx
G'day all,

Its been a while since I heard any updated info on this new draft national code thingy for our fourbies, so I was wondering has anybody heard wether they have finalised the details of it, what they will be and when they are going to enforce it?

Thanks ahead :)

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 7:58 pm
by cj
In Vic the Engineers are supposed to be having a meeting with VicRoads next month to go over a list of issues they have with it. It is currently what VicRoads told them to work with and apparently it will be passed in to legislation around the end of the year. It also appears that Vic will add a few extra things specific to Vic as will other States.

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 8:09 pm
by just cruizin'
If the states still have the power to add and subtract at their will what's the point, in three years we'll be back here discuss when the National Code is going to be introduced.

The point of this code is such that all states be the same so a vehicle is one state will be legal in another. Just another inter-State Government S*** fight. I BELIEVE that Australia a national registration system where you pay rego to the State Government you live but is totally covered by national rules/laws.

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 8:29 pm
by -Scott-
just cruizin' wrote:If the states still have the power to add and subtract at their will what's the point, in three years we'll be back here discuss when the National Code is going to be introduced.
This is the root of the problem. Vehicle registration laws are state based, covered by state legislation. For all states to adopt the NCOP they would need to write the NCOP regulations into their legislation - this is a big job. Then, every time "the committee" (or whoever they are) decided to adjust the NCOP, each state would need to modify their legislation again, so the states have this prospect of forever modifying their legislation to suit the whims of a group over which they have little control.

The other alternative is for the states to modify their legislation to refer to the NCOP - in which case, their registration rules change everytime the NCOP changes, whether they like it or not.

I've been told SA is unlikely to ever adopt it.

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 8:36 pm
by mmaaxx
is there any chance of getting a clear and straight answer on the issue? there seems to be so much red tape and irregularities.

How are all the fourbie owners supposed to know what they can and cant do?

do we hold off on future mods until this goes through or just go ahead with it anyway?

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 9:01 pm
by mugginsmoo
get your engineer involved with your build-up now, and no matter what happens your already in the system.

this is what i'm doing, i've run all my mods by the engineer, he is happy and has given me the OK to go for it, and he's sent me a preliminary report (with preliminary costs :cry: )
i keep him in the loop and he keeps in constant contact with me, that way i won't "fall off the radar".

Mitch

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 11:00 pm
by just cruizin'
-Scott- wrote: Then, every time "the committee" (or whoever they are) decided to adjust the NCOP, each state would need to modify their legislation again, so the states have this prospect of forever modifying their legislation to suit the whims of a group over which they have little control.
And this is different to now, how, "the committee" as it stands now are state based rather then what is suggested as national.
-Scott- wrote: The other alternative is for the states to modify their legislation to refer to the NCOP - in which case, their registration rules change everytime the NCOP changes, whether they like it or not.
Realalisticaly how often are these regulations going to change, once firm guidelines are set down there would have to be a bloody good reason to chance them. I'm sure not everyone is going to be happy and I dare say it us 4WD may be at the pointy end of the stick but at least you know where you stand.

In my experience as a Vehicle designer, you had to know which State the vehicle was ending up in to determine exhaust outlets, some light positions and a number of other little items just to pass roadworthy.

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 11:38 am
by sierrajim
mugginsmoo wrote:get your engineer involved with your build-up now, and no matter what happens your already in the system.

On a state level i'm not 100% sure on this being factual. On a Federal level this is most definitely the case.

I'd be making sure that your project is finished and approved before the NCOP comes in. That said when it does come in there will always be ways to get a car through, it will simply cost more.


PS

Nice sig Mitch :finger: