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forward control
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 8:58 am
by St Jimmy
i was just looking at a photo of a forward control landi and was wondering if it could be done with a zook

using a cab of a carry ute i know it would be unstable or would it

you could make a soft top like the unimog. just a thought

forward control
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 9:10 am
by want33s
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 9:19 am
by grimbo
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 9:48 am
by vicelore
PITTY the pics are white evil boxes ... i would of liked to know wtf u guys are talkin about lol some little truck thingy i guess.
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 10:14 am
by Gwagensteve
The last carry vans that were sold in Australia were sold in two configurations, 4WD, single speed transfer tray back and 2WD van.
Unforunately the 4WD versions had the tcase output on the LHS so they wouldn't take a sierra/vitara case easily.
Daihatsu sold Hijet vans and traybacks in 4WD. I think they sold about three.
I have looked at this but getting an acceptable tyre size and COG would be very difficult. Forward control vehicles have very different architecture to keep the height sane, and with a carry, that is allowing a 13" rim and tiny tyre. to try to go to something useful like a 31 would be a totally custom project.
Forward controls climb well and are nice to look out of but are @$$%% scary when decending.
The best option to have a play with this idea woudl be an old 4WD express van, a hijet, haflinger or Pinzgauer. Haffies and Pinzgauers were revolutionary when they were the only things available with locking diffs, but I have been on a trip with a well built 6WD Pinzy and it was cool and different but not as capable as you might imagine.
there was a hijet for sale a while ago with ATV tyres onit as a farm car. looked like fun.
Steve.
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 10:26 am
by grimbo
vicelore wrote:PITTY the pics are white evil boxes ... i would of liked to know wtf u guys are talkin about lol some little truck thingy i guess.
google has the great function where you can enter a topic and it does a search on all the web and gives you these results and many of them would be pictures. It's pretty cool technology and I'm sure if people give it a chance it will take off

Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 10:30 am
by Tiny
grimbo wrote:vicelore wrote:PITTY the pics are white evil boxes ... i would of liked to know wtf u guys are talkin about lol some little truck thingy i guess.
google has the great function where you can enter a topic and it does a search on all the web and gives you these results and many of them would be pictures. It's pretty cool technology and I'm sure if people give it a chance it will take off

thats an easy notion for the average web wheeler, but for those who spend more time on real turf, the above logic is somewhat difficult to imagine

Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 10:36 am
by sierrajim
Tiny wrote:grimbo wrote:vicelore wrote:PITTY the pics are white evil boxes ... i would of liked to know wtf u guys are talkin about lol some little truck thingy i guess.
google has the great function where you can enter a topic and it does a search on all the web and gives you these results and many of them would be pictures. It's pretty cool technology and I'm sure if people give it a chance it will take off

thats an easy notion for the average web wheeler, but for those who spend more time on real turf, the above logic is somewhat difficult to imagine

GOLD

forward controls
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 10:47 am
by want33s
grimbo wrote:
google has the great function where you can enter a topic and it does a search on all the web and gives you these results and many of them would be pictures. It's pretty cool technology and I'm sure if people give it a chance it will take off


Very dry.
Check these out.... diff locks and lift and even monster huge 25" tyres..

..
www.twinriversatv.com/inventory.html
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 12:00 pm
by Gwagensteve
as an aside, there are two flavours of forward control landrovers, the FC101 (which was only sold to the military) and a series IIA civillian version.
The FC101 ran a 3.5litre V8 and constant 4WD, with sailsbury diffs front and rear. It had a custom chassis for the application. These are very cool.
The civillian SIIA ran on a stock 109" landrover chassis and used a subframe to slide what was effectively a landrover cab over the engine. They were chronically underpowered and increadibly unstable. Preety much as you woudl imagine a sierra to be if you put a carry cab on it.
I will have a dig for some photos tonight.
Steve.
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 12:03 pm
by vicelore
grimbo wrote:vicelore wrote:PITTY the pics are white evil boxes ... i would of liked to know wtf u guys are talkin about lol some little truck thingy i guess.
google has the great function where you can enter a topic and it does a search on all the web and gives you these results and many of them would be pictures. It's pretty cool technology and I'm sure if people give it a chance it will take off

sorry buddy i did look thru all the links provided etc. just didnt really know what to google. wasnt sure even what a "forward control landi" is . sorry...
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 6:59 pm
by oldcrusty72
The FC 101's were used in Aust Army up until the late 80's to tow around the Army's Air Defense missle systems. They went for the forward cab to allow carrying the Missles on the tray and needed the extra lenght to fit them on. They were an exellent little truck when loaded up but as soon as you took all the weight off the back were abit scary. A good hard wack on the brakes would see you in "Two Wheel" mode as all the weight is at the front. but with the alloy they V8's kicked asre. I beleive they were the same engine as in the P76's. They eventually got replaced late 80's with the 6x6 landrover made by JRA.
Tim