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Ive had my 300TDi Discovery for 4 months, it has 180k and was an old mans car for many years. I only drive it on weekends and would b lucky to clocked up 5000k on it. Since ive had it ive had to replace the fuel pump, water pump, whole central locking system, the main belt and tensioner and all the dash guages rapidly flick up and down whilst driving. Also the reverse lights and rear windows only work intermittently. Has anyone else had this many problems in such a short time? Ive had a pajero and 3 patrols and never had dramas like this

From what Ive read on here and other forums it seems pre '99 are the worst ( read s1) got better when BMW took over.

elec probs check battery and alt.

these have been known to give issues ifnot working correctly

Pommy shit.

Design is good just not put together real well.

Zute wrote:From what Ive read on here and other forums it seems p
re '99 are the worst ( read s1) got better when BMW took over.

Try pre '94....... , a big statment from a D2 owner.........

mkpatrol wrote:Pommy shit.

Design is good just not put together real well.

^^^^^^

mkpatrol wrote:Pommy shit.

Design is good just not put together real well.

Thats why we love em Id have my rover over a boring pootrol or cruiser anyday! had a cruiser once, saw the light and bought a Rangie

Camo

V8 Rangie wrote:

mkpatrol wrote:Pommy shit.

Design is good just not put together real well.

Thats why we love em Id have my rover over a boring pootrol or cruiser anyday! had a cruiser once, saw the light and bought a Rangie

Camo

Dont worry I like them, much nicer to drive than my Poo, I just dont like fixing it all the time thats all

I added up receipts the other night.

For just over 60 000km, I've spent over $8000 just on repairs. Doesn't count fun things and routine maintenance stuff.

All that on a car I'd be flat out selling for $10 000 these days.

Love driving it, hate owning it.

Adam.

A*D*A*M wrote:I added up receipts the other night.

For just over 60 000km, I've spent over $8000 just on repairs. Doesn't count fun things and routine maintenance stuff.

All that on a car I'd be flat out selling for $10 000 these days.

Love driving it, hate owning it.

Adam.

This is what I like, 3 years, 50k (car has done 380,000 now): Radiator 500, new tyres 320, alternator 500, deisel tune with some other stuff 1100 & thats it other than brake pads & regular servicing.

Not trying turn this into a rover bashing thread but its the pommy way i am afraid. they have had some of the best & market leading designs but the reliabilty is shit.

If my wife would let me i would buy a camel chaser (defender) as they are the best 4by out of the box.

A*D*A*M wrote:I added up receipts the other night.

For just over 60 000km, I've spent over $8000 just on repairs. Doesn't count fun things and routine maintenance stuff.

All that on a car I'd be flat out selling for $10 000 these days.

Love driving it, hate owning it.

Adam.

Ditto

Love driving it, like the look of it, hate paying to keep it going

I don't know. I lived in Australia for 5 years and was in an all makes club. The Patrols seemed to always be the ones breaking down and needing recovery. I never recall needing to trail repair a Rover.

Seriously though from talking to 4WD mechanics who work on them all, day in and day out, no make is more reliable or better designed than any other. They all have their design faults.

Rover owners just complain more.

I'm with JB.
We have a GU and a Defender and the Defender doesn't cost a lot more to maintain.
I've just replaced the clutch on the 'fender (broke a clutch fork but most everything else was about to die when removed) and so replaced all the seals (rear main, g/box and t/case) although only the intermediate shaft O rings were leaking. Mileage is 225,000, so not too bad and the first major thing that's needed doing (although did crack valve stem caps about 80,000km ago)
Everything else is just maintenance, eg timing belts, tensioner and idler at just under 180,000km, one set of rotors, two sets of pads, speedi-sleeve one dodgy hub seal face and replace with RTC3511 seals all round, a few belts, one engine mount and all the hoses (precaution), two radiator leaks and a couple of wiring shorts and all the suspension bushes.

Patrol has done one radiator, needed the viscous fan hub o/hauled, one fuel transfer pump, a set of pads, shocks, the radio power aerial failed and two sets of belts and er, that's it.
And it's done 255,000km too. Damn

No, wait, a rear axle seal is now leaking....

To be fair, the 'fender is my work vehicle and the Patrol is SWMBO's, so doesn't cop the flogging mine does.

matsmad wrote:

A*D*A*M wrote:I added up receipts the other night.

For just over 60 000km, I've spent over $8000 just on repairs. Doesn't count fun things and routine maintenance stuff.

All that on a car I'd be flat out selling for $10 000 these days.

Love driving it, hate owning it.

Adam.

Ditto

Love driving it, like the look of it, hate paying to keep it going

What year is it and was it a cheapie ?

Loan Rangie,

Its a '93. Cost me $15000 in '03. Probably paid too much, but at the time Rangies were few and far between in Queensland. Anything I found up there had plenty of beach work and even those that didn't needed plenty spent on them.

Mechanic at the time said that this one was in pretty good nick for a Rover. Every time it goes near a mechanic, I get told that it has surprisingly few leaks, the engine goes great, but by the way you need the (insert expensive thing here) fixed.

Any mechanic I've found who seems to know their way around a Rover charges around $110 an hour for labour plus extra for the gold plated box the rover parts come in. (That being said, genuine Toyota is worse)
Those who are just Generic mechanics always manage to stuff the job.

No brand loyalty here. I've owned a Series III Rover, 3 Jeeps, 2 'Cruisers, 1 Hilux and a sierra plus plenty of time in my Old Man's Defender.

Of these, the Rangie is my favourite to drive and I like the look of it the best (closely followed by the defender) but I just don't trust it. Not that things didn't go wrong with my past cars, but mostly it was because of me doing something stupid. Each of the 3 rovers just seem to need something every time they go in for a service.

My Rangie is heaps nicer to drive or be a passenger in that my Mate's Patrol, but it just keeps going, minimal servicing, rarely gets preventative maintenance, but costs him so much less every year. (we both do about the same km)

Well enough bleating. I know I've got a choice to own something else.

Adam.

Her we go again, Rover bashing.

Want to talk abot VR VS and VT Commodores??? Example, 2000 VT with 120K on the clock, clutch stat itself for no reason cept poor design, cost to repair over 2K (stupid flywheel costs over 800 alone)....and this is common for VR VS and VT V6's and even worse for V8s. No wonder Holden sales are falling - I would never buy one again. And that's just the clutch - these cars are riddled with over 50 design problems.

So, don't get too excited about the odd Rover 'issue'.

PS in 2 years of hard Disco 93 D1 yakka (200K) - had no issue cept fuel pump and dissy advance unit ($600 all up - and pump was my fault too).

I wish the VT Commodore and the NJ Pajero we have (Paj has 170K and we have spent over 4K on repairs so far - gearbos, steering idlers, CV boots, manifoldsx4, oil leaks, lifters, numerous gaskets etc) was like that:)

Lets move on please.

Actually it was more of a question to the original poster about his disco.

Loanrangie wrote:

matsmad wrote:

A*D*A*M wrote:I added up receipts the other night.

For just over 60 000km, I've spent over $8000 just on repairs. Doesn't count fun things and routine maintenance stuff.

All that on a car I'd be flat out selling for $10 000 these days.

Love driving it, hate owning it.

Adam.

Ditto

Love driving it, like the look of it, hate paying to keep it going

What year is it and was it a cheapie ?

It is a 1995 S1 TDI update with 180k on the clock. I paid 10k for it with tjm bar, snorkel, tow pack, cargo barrier and drawers. I added small lift and 33" tyres (and stereo ) other than that it is stock. bought it from a car yard Ive just been told (by a rover specialist) the belt is the wrong size and has caused the tensioner to go skewiff which is $160+ on its own I recently had a GQ shorty with over 400,000k and had no where as many problems, nearly none!

Sorry, Not Rover Bashing.

Just passing on my experiences with my car.

Despite what I say, I really do love the Rangie.

OK, just to balance things. NJ Pajero 100,000kms Lash adjusters carked it. Very common fault and Mitsubishi think it acceptable.
Ever noticed how Toyota drivers say they never have any problems, than run off a list of things they had fixed.
Bent axle housing
gear box seals
leaking power steer
Cracks in bodies
cracks in chassis
broken steering mounts
wheel studs snap
dash board rattles
diffs wear out( just after warranty )
Spare wheel wire hanger breaks ( who stole your spare ? )
radiator sticks out below chassis, damaged bottom tank.
parts not interchangeable
blah, blah, blah...
bring on the flame suit.

no such thing as a perfect car...

we all get our lemons now and then in our time.

I could have a rover.. and not have a single problem whereas a neighbour would have one as well , and has heaps of problems , the same type model make etc.

Then a few years later... i'd have a patrol... and I'd have heaps of issues whereas the neighbour had none and they're same year and make.

go figure...

its called the luck of the draw... get used to it..

A biggest factor with a rover is who has been there before.
There are many parts which take a slightly different approach to the average japanese or aussie car that mechanics are used to.

If you do things properly, they'll give you no more trouble than a similarly abused vehicle.
But if things weren't done properly, then you'll have to visit every nut bolt and screw that's previously been screwed with.

nar!
its the cars way of keeping nissan owners out of it

DARTHrover wrote:nar!
its the cars way of keeping nissan owners out of it

8 years of going hard with my defender and still goes hard no rust

My 1987 110 has 330000km on the clock. I am the 3rd owner and I have the full service history.

Apart from service items (brake pads, oils and filters) it has needed:
Gearbox rebuild and clutch replacement at 240000km (known problem with LT85 box - but 240k is not bad)
1x rear pinion seal
2x hub seals
New injector nozzles @280k km (not really needed)
A few minor electrical gremlins have needed sorting
PAS box is leaking slightly so will need some work soon.

Couple of TREs, and a track rod (bent offroad)

My Discos are no worse than any other car I have owned. It is all down to how well they have been looked after by the first owner, I reckon.

Most of the problems I see posted here are due to a lack of proper servicing, particularly the cooling system.

Still, no worse than any other car and they are pretty well designed. As far as axle breakages, etc, that would not happen to standard cars with standard wheels, which is what they were designed to use. Also most broken axles have already done 150,000 kms plus........ And it helps to remember anything can be broken!

ISUZUROVER wrote: New injector nozzles @280k km (not really needed)

What'd the nozzles cost you?

I just got a call from the place I posted mine off to, they're poked. Looks like $NZ700.
If I was getting 30mpg from the truck with nozzles that bad, what's it going to go like with new ones?

Zute wrote:.
Ever noticed how Toyota drivers say they never have any problems, than run off a list of things they had fixed.

Yeah a mate of mine has a 75 & raves about it & puts shit on me all the time. He was raving on the other day that it was still going strong after 280,000. He forgot to mention that it has had an engine, gearbox & both diffs rebuilt


BTW the repairs I mentioned above are all that has been done in 380,000 as i bought the car form my old man 50thou ago. It has towed a caravan around OZ twice + other trips, once to Coffs with me.

The next car I get wont be as good as this one.

i have a 98 s1 disco v8. I have owned it from new, and so far on repairs it has cost me $11 for alt bearings, $200 for a stepper motor, and $95 on a new battery that i only replaced two weeks ago.

I have had v8 fords and v8 holdens that have cost more to fix in a shorter time.

I love my disco and would not give it up for anything else on the road.

cheers steve