Outer Limits 4x4 Board

ok i wana see how much lift i have got

can some 1 in a standard zook measure the distance from top of axle tube to chassis rail

greg can u do it to?

Do you have pics of your rear top shock mount? I have spoa but haven't relocated the top shock mount yet.

Standard Zook is like a non V8 Capri.....rare

Nam has got stock suspension

front 12.5cm
rear 13.5cm

135 - 240 = 105 mm lift
= touch over 4 inch

mine is about 270mm

Redzook, I can't see if you have any anti wrap device or not, but either way I would fill in the ends of your spring perch's, under normal excaleration and braking (not to mention 3rd gear chirpy's) the ends will crush causing the U bolts to loosen, and no one like a sloppy rear end. and your springs will be toast even faster.
Peter.

Standard Zook is like a non V8 Capri.....rare

So you don't want to buy a non v8 capri do you???

Yes filling in the end of the perch to stop it being crushed is a gooood idea (been there done have th scars from welding splatter after replacing one)

Don't have a measurement, but put it this way- you could climb through there.

Liam .. You Zuk has to be winched up that 5 degree slope .. Why didnt you put it in low range

How tubbed out is the back there Liam? Looks like you've removed a bit of it.

Yeah, about 8 angle grinder blades worth.

droopypete wrote:Redzook, I can't see if you have any anti wrap device or not, but either way I would fill in the ends of your spring perch's, under normal excaleration and braking (not to mention 3rd gear chirpy's) the ends will crush causing the U bolts to loosen, and no one like a sloppy rear end. and your springs will be toast even faster.
Peter.

yep i have a track bar

redzook wrote:yep i have a track bar

But where are your bump stops?

N*A*M wrote:front 12.5cm
rear 13.5cm

Bummer - looks like i'm a bit tall:

Rear - 7" = 177mm (axel to chassis)
Front - 6" = 152mm (axel to bump stop mount (not the bump stop))

Note: the car sits a good inch and a bit taller now due to the lighter body (this also means the rear cannot be compressed onto it's bump stops anymore). I plan to remove some more leaves from the spring packs in early january - i'll update the details once this is done.

greg wrote:

redzook wrote:yep i have a track bar

But where are your bump stops?

dont have none thats what the overload is for

greg wrote:

N*A*M wrote:front 12.5cm
rear 13.5cm

Bummer - looks like i'm a bit tall:

Rear - 7" = 177mm (axel to chassis)
Front - 6" = 152mm (axel to bump stop mount (not the bump stop))

Note: the car sits a good inch and a bit taller now due to the lighter body (this also means the rear cannot be compressed onto it's bump stops anymore). I plan to remove some more leaves from the spring packs in early january - i'll update the details once this is done.

that means your zook is actually taller than mine

redzook wrote:that means your zook is actually taller than mine

Please explain?

I gather you mean spring lift plus body lift?

greg wrote:

redzook wrote:that means your zook is actually taller than mine

I gather you mean spring lift plus body lift?

yep

greg wrote:

redzook wrote:that means your zook is actually taller than mine

Please explain?

I gather you mean spring lift plus body lift?

Be carfull Redzook, Greg can be a bit touchy when you call his rig "tall" he prefers to run with the lowriders.
Peter.

droopypete wrote:

greg wrote:

redzook wrote:that means your zook is actually taller than mine

Please explain?

I gather you mean spring lift plus body lift?

Be carfull Redzook, Greg can be a bit touchy when you call his rig "tall" he prefers to run with the lowriders.
Peter.

thats why i am givin it to him thats 1 reason why he dosent like spoa
he reckons the cog is to high where his cog would be higher then mine

redzook wrote:thats why i am givin it to him thats 1 reason why he dosent like spoa
he reckons the cog is to high where his cog would be higher then mine

Thanks redzook. Though i should point out that cog and total height are not the same thing - i.e. if i had a 10m tall cb arial on my car would that make my car cog 11m above the ground - no (unless the areal had a big ball of concrete at the end of it of course)...

I'll have to come up to nsw one day with my car so we can compare notes

yes i know that

when we get formula zuk goin we can compare then
as long as its half way between syd an melbourne

redzook wrote:as long as its half way between syd an melbourne

Yeah we'll have it at Toolangi

Gerg how much wider would your Zuk be than stock ??? Mine is not wide enough for it's height at the moment ... IMHO despite the fact it only about a 4 inch spring lift now ..

I wonder how much lift they have if you include the tyres .. IE if your have a 4 inch spring lift and run 31's you have:
A to much lift for that tyre size and
B another inch and a half or so fo lift from the tyre itself ...

So you have 5.5 inch lift ...
How tall are you from the ground to the chassis rail ..

love_mud wrote:How tall are you from the ground to the chassis rail ..

I'm not sure - but i can tell you that i have more sill clearance on the drivers side than on the passenger side

i had 2" body lift (which would only raise the cog a little bit) and 4" tyre lift (26" to 34") which would raise the cog a fair bit, but the wheels and tyres were much heavier. i was about 3-4" wider. i reckon i would still need to be another 2" wider to follow the '1.5" width for every 1" lift rule'.

N*A*M wrote:i had 2" body lift (which would only raise the cog a little bit) and 4" tyre lift (26" to 34") which would raise the cog a fair bit, but the wheels and tyres were much heavier. i was about 3-4" wider. i reckon i would still need to be another 2" wider to follow the '1.5" width for every 1" lift rule'.

Yes i have to agree that my car isn't as wide as it should be according to the rule... but on the plus side, the cog would have to be lower than before because we have swapped the body for a lighter soft top, and also stripped the body down to it's bare essentials... the battery is lower than normal, but the fuel tank is higher etc... oh how the list goes on.

I guess the best way to measure the cog test would be to jack the car up under it's tyres until it falls over - this would tell you the max angles it can drive, and also where the cog is. you could then repeat the test front to back etc..