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doing front bearings, need some guidance

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 6:17 pm
by ausoops
given my car has had a pretty bad front wobble i jacked up the front and found my rh wheel had about 1in of play. either this weekend or next i want to change the front end. these are the bits i am going to buy so that i can do it all in one hit. what else will i need?. btw i will be getting help from a mechanic friend, i am buying the socket because last time he used a cold chisel to do up the nut and i thought it was a bit dogey.

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Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 6:18 pm
by ausoops
i could buy cheaper on ebay but i want to buy from this guy because of the good word he gets on here.

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 7:55 pm
by badger
cv grease, marine grease and diff oil is about it
check ya tierods etc and king pins while you are at it

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 8:44 pm
by killer_garden_gnome
chances are u dont have a six sided nut, if its the safari ur talkin about ull probably have a circlular nut with tapped holes in it, its the same steup as newer GQs and GUs, i could be wrong but the few ive done have all had em, even 88 models,

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 2:24 pm
by badger
sory to hijack but do those later model locking nuts fit the early gq's and any idea how much they are. im guessing they are a genuine only item

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 2:58 pm
by MKPatrolGuy
badger wrote:sory to hijack but do those later model locking nuts fit the early gq's and any idea how much they are. im guessing they are a genuine only item
From memory I paid about $45 for all the parts to convert my Mav to the newer GU style.

Dave

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 3:04 pm
by nastytroll
buy 4 m4 x 8mm long ht cap screws n the lock ring n nuts are $17 per side, cheap as n do not come loose like the older two nut n tab washer design

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 3:47 pm
by ausoops
killer_garden_gnome wrote:chances are u dont have a six sided nut, if its the safari ur talkin about ull probably have a circlular nut with tapped holes in it, its the same steup as newer GQs and GUs, i could be wrong but the few ive done have all had em, even 88 models,
i wasn't sure if that was the case but it is. will the locking nut need replacing? are there bits in the bearing kit
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that i wont need?

also we are changing the front rotors and pads, how much are rear pads worth? are front/rear the same

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 4:16 pm
by killer_garden_gnome
1 pads are like 35 bucks an end (4 pads) and im pretty sure they are the same front and rear

2 that kit has a new lock washer for the 6 sided bearing nut

3 u shouldnt need to replace either the nut or the lock washer if u have the newer setup.

4 u may need a new lock washer (which is in ur kit anyway) if its the 6 sided nut but u can usually reuse an old one if u have to

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 4:46 pm
by nastytroll
try not to re-use an old tab washer, they are like a $1.30 or so from nissan. The washers have a tendancy to have the tab wind its self through the tread n come loose, mainly on passenger side

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 5:37 pm
by mattsluxtruck
I just did the bearings on my 90 Mav yesterday and the bastards have come loose already. They have sheared the tab off on the lock ring.
I want to go to the newer style lock ring , so can anyone tell me EXACTLY what parts I need to get off Nissan tomorrow to do it?
Is it just 1 circular lock ring and washer per side?

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 6:14 pm
by MKPatrolGuy
You need the following

NI-40262-02J00 1 PER SIDE - NUT LOCK, FRONT WHEEL
NI-40264-02J10 1 PER SIDE - WASHER, FRONT WHEEL BEARING
NI-01414-00051 2 PER SIDE - BOLTS

Bogged from

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Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 6:15 pm
by killer_garden_gnome
yeh thats all, they need 2 m4 bolts too i think but u should get them with it, something doesnt seem right about shearin that washer, there shouldnt be a radial force on the washer to spin it thats why theres a bearing, ur bearing has to have locked and spun on the washer which isnt good

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 6:17 pm
by ausoops
who made a tool to do the lock nuts up? i just bashed them around with a chisel until the wheel was tightish.

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 6:54 pm
by GUJohnno
ausoops wrote:who made a tool to do the lock nuts up? i just bashed them around with a chisel until the wheel was tightish.
Try hobzee from the links above. I got all of my gear through him as well.

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 7:38 pm
by killer_garden_gnome
i have but i cant find it, i would taken a photo, its a piece of flat bar with 2 bolts that fit the bearing nut bolt circle diameter and a 12 mm bolt thru the flat bar so u can put a socket on it and turn it, if u dont get what i mean let me know, or do u mean a 54mm socket for the 6 sided nut?

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 9:11 pm
by mattsluxtruck
Sweet guys thanks for the info and part numbers. Hopefully my local dealer has them in stock when I rock down tomorrow.
So do you just tension the lock ring up like normal , and line the bolt holes up with the keyways in the stub axle and put the bolts in?
Bear with me , I ahvent done this setup before and dont want to stuff it up. I am sick of doing the bearings on the POS already.

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 10:32 pm
by ausoops
killer_garden_gnome wrote:i have but i cant find it, i would taken a photo, its a piece of flat bar with 2 bolts that fit the bearing nut bolt circle diameter and a 12 mm bolt thru the flat bar so u can put a socket on it and turn it, if u dont get what i mean let me know, or do u mean a 54mm socket for the 6 sided nut?
yeah im going to make one like you said with the flat bar and two bits of steel rod

Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 11:17 am
by craigtc
I know this is an old thread but I'm doing my bearings over the weekend and I have autohubs (yeah yeah I know ditch them and go manual) on my '93 TI is there any more drama involved in this aside from just removing them?

The gregorys manual doesnt cover the TI model and the diag for that tool to remove the locking nut? Does it work? Wouldnt it just twist under pressure? Is there one commercialy avaliable?

Cheers

Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 3:51 pm
by ausoops
ive got auto hubs aswell, its a piece of piss once you've opened it up it will make more sense.