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My BATTERY'S ARE DEAD

Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 8:37 pm
by frp88
My cruiser is 24 volt and my 2 Supercheap 600cca are dead after 3 years so Iam happy with the time I got out of them.So tomorrow it off to get two new ones do I spend $300 on two supercheap battery's and get a top sealed deep cycle for about $300 for camping.Or get the optima which will do both jobs.When camping I run a fridge 4 12 volt light and a 20watt fluro with an inverter.Just after some opinion's .

Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 8:38 pm
by Gwagensteve
Optima, every time, without question.

It's only a kidney... you have two. :D

Steve.

Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 8:45 pm
by Emo
Exide Extreme.

Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 8:48 pm
by Gwagensteve
Pfft exide whatever.

The question was supercheap or optima.

There is absolutely no comparison between optimas and any other battery.

It's like airlockers and swampers. Once you have had them, you never go back. Nothing else stacks up.

Steve.

Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 9:15 pm
by frp88
do you know the price off the optimas :?:

Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 9:24 pm
by Gwagensteve
According to highway-star on here, who has been looking recently, $425 for a yellow top.

I am sure I paid about $380 for my yellow top, maybe 2 years ago.

Blue tops (marine) are about $400 too and have cool little extra terminals for accessories.
This is all based on D34 prices, the most common size.

steve.

Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 9:31 pm
by cj
I had a price from Autobarn for $385 for a yellow D34 and $330 for a yellow D35 recently. Just found the brochure with the prices written on it going through some stuff earlier tonight.

Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 9:34 pm
by frp88
what cca is the red and yellow and the a/h :?:

Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 9:37 pm
by Gwagensteve
cj wrote:I had a price from Autobarn for $385 for a yellow D34 and $330 for a yellow D35 recently. Just found the brochure with the prices written on it going through some stuff earlier tonight.
Quick PM highway-star before he does something he regrets!

um, 55 a/h and 750-1000cca depending on colour and rating.

yellows are 750cca. blues are 1000, but this is a "marine rating" which is at 0deg C rather than 0 deg F. Reds are 800cca

I reality, they will all do enough CCA to start the world :D

My yellow top can spin my diesel merc faster than it idles :rofl:

Steve.

Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 9:40 pm
by cj

Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 10:49 am
by Highway-Star
cj wrote:I had a price from Autobarn for $385 for a yellow D34 and $330 for a yellow D35 recently. Just found the brochure with the prices written on it going through some stuff earlier tonight.
WTF!!! If I could have got the D35 for that price I would have had one of them!

Blast, my luck is at a current low. I'm sure retailers here in QLD have a profit margin on the generous side.

Anyone want to see the recent garbage I've been going through, here's a link to the suzuki section thread of been using:
http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/phpBB2/vi ... p?t=104581

Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 11:03 am
by Gwagensteve
I did say I got my D34 for $380. I got mine from battery world in Fawkner, Vic.

I think I would buy one from vic and get it freighted just to spite the QLD distributor.

Steve.

Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 11:42 am
by Jeeps
How long is a good average for battery life? I'm entering year number 6 for my battery...

Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 12:26 pm
by Ruffy
Jeeps wrote:How long is a good average for battery life? I'm entering year number 6 for my battery...
6 Years huh??... you've just jinxed yourself and it's gunna shit itself tomorrow...

Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 1:06 pm
by me3@neuralfibre.com
How do you get the 12V to run the other stuff? Downconverter? If you are tapping 12v between the batts that's bad. Optima won't live long with that.

Paul

Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 1:46 pm
by leehamescort
Gwagensteve wrote:Pfft exide whatever.

There is absolutely no comparison between optimas and any other battery.
An alternative to the Optima is the Deka Intimidator, I've been massivly impressed with these, cost me $250ea.
-On the test machine they gave a rating of 1100CCA (cant remember the stated rating)
-I have never run out of charge while winching.
-Have used them to weld the steering arm back onto the car with jumper leads and then reconnected them back up and the car started straight up!!
-Shorted out the main starter wire (fused itself to the power steering lines) by the time i disconnected the battery terminals both batteries where boiling!! Rigged up a jumper lead as a new starter lead and then started straight up!!

They are a conventional design battery but have a desing similar to the optima in that they are somewhere in the middle of a starting battery and a deep cell to give the best of both worlds.

I've been very impressed and will get them again when these eventually die, if they die, they have copped a massive hiding from me so far and are still going strong.

It's like airlockers and swampers. Once you have had them, you never go back. Nothing else stacks up.
There goes any credit you had, both crap products!!
(ducks for cover) :lol:

catcha
Leeham

Note:
These comments come from an IFS Boy....take that as you may.

Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 2:04 pm
by Gwagensteve
I am sure the battery you mention is a quality product, and there are many others, however, I do need to correct you slightly in relation to CCA ratings.

I have no idea what temperature you tested your battery at, but doubt it was at 0deg fahrenheit. That is the temperature the battery has to be at to deliver a CCA. CCA stands for COLD cranking amps.

If you measured the battery at, say, room temperature, it would deliver far far more than that.

That's why the CCA rating for the Blue top is higher that the red top - Marine CCA is measured at 0deg celcius, much warmer, hence the 25% higher rating.

Steve.

Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 4:34 pm
by leehamescort
Whoops, yeah sorry CCA was wrong, so what is the correct unit? CA??
I found the specs, they are 750CCA

either way, bloody good battery and saves a bit of dosh on the optima.

cheers
Leeham

Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 7:18 pm
by frp88
I talked to the battery guy and he said that the optimas where to expensive in his opinion.I bought 2 sealed N70 Civic batteries $210 each they have 600cca and 80a/h the optimas a/h is less and nearly double the price.I might buy a Trojan deepcycle 145a/h for $265.

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 12:52 am
by Jeeps
Ruffy wrote:
Jeeps wrote:How long is a good average for battery life? I'm entering year number 6 for my battery...
6 Years huh??... you've just jinxed yourself and it's gunna shit itself tomorrow...
if it doesn't start a fire ;)

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 7:58 am
by GRINCH
Jeeps wrote:
Ruffy wrote:
Jeeps wrote:How long is a good average for battery life? I'm entering year number 6 for my battery...
6 Years huh??... you've just jinxed yourself and it's gunna shit itself tomorrow...
if it doesn't start a fire ;)
consider yourself lucky if you get more then 3yrs out of a std battery

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 8:01 am
by GRINCH
frp88 wrote:I talked to the battery guy and he said that the optimas where to expensive in his opinion.I bought 2 sealed N70 Civic batteries $210 each they have 600cca and 80a/h the optimas a/h is less and nearly double the price.I might buy a Trojan deepcycle 145a/h for $265.
the optima batteries are very overpriced for what your getting