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spotlights on roof rack. Legaal or not?
Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 7:39 am
by patrol with 6 kids
Can someone enlighten me as to the legalities of spot lights fitted to roof racks, in NSW. Am considering fitting four to the front of the roof rack on my patrol.
Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 3:21 pm
by Wish I had coils
I would say no! but who knows, Half the time it is what ever the coppas feel like. Just put them on what are the going to say "take them off"
Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 3:28 pm
by patrol with 6 kids
Thanks for that seems like a good common sense answer. I will probably wire them up with an on/off switch and through the headlight dip switch. The on /off swith will isolate them when I am not wanting them to come on.
Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 10:29 pm
by -Scott-
This is an endless source of arguments.
AFAIK, they're 100% legal until you turn them on, on road. Offroad, you're fine.
Some police will tell you they're illegal - I don't believe them. Not that I have any myself...
Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 10:32 pm
by Shadow
QLD 100% legal
other places NFI
Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 8:46 pm
by macca81
as scott said, totaly legal untill you turn them on. in tas anyway. no foward facing light is to be mounted above the lowest part of the windscreen while illuminated.
Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 6:38 pm
by ozmidnight
In NSw it's illegal to have them on, but if you have them with there covers on there should be no problem my mate who's an RTA tester says it comes down to intent so if you have the DL covers on then you can't turn them on the road in a hurry any way.
Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 9:48 pm
by RockyF75
their like guns, perfectly legal til you use it on someone
Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 8:34 am
by bigcam
ADR73a (i think on the number) specifies that driving lights must be wired to come on only with the high beams and the high beams must be able to come on without them.
horizontal positioning: no requirment
vertical positioning: no requirment
however it suggests that they should be mounted on the front of the vehicle or in a position where the light spill does not adversly affect the drivers forward vision (reflected light included)
it also states in the vicroads mod guide that a vahicle can have no more than 6 forward facing white lights and they must be semetrically mounted.
i.e. 2 headlights 2 on the bullbar and 2 on the roof all in pairs mounted equal distances from centre. (or 2 headlights and 4 on the roof)
disclaimer: this is from my own research and my interpretation of the ADR's if im wrong tuff sh!t. go cry to somone else. I think on top of this common sense prevails. if you are doing dognuts in the maccas front lawn in frankston with your roof lights on chances are ya gunna get screwed!
cam
Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 2:51 pm
by BundyBrumby
Is there a site where you can check to see what the individual ADR's stand for? like what the ones on your complience plate mean??
Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 6:03 pm
by macca81
go to google, type in 'ADR', select the search aus only option, hit the top search item. last night it went straight to the comleate list of ADRs for automotive. if it doesnt, search the site till you find the auto section, it will take all of 1 min to find
Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 10:24 am
by coopster
why you want to put spotty on your roof they dont work as good to far for the light to travel unless you are using for bush use only
Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 10:31 am
by -Scott-
coopster wrote:why you want to put spotty on your roof they dont work as good to far for the light to travel unless you are using for bush use only
I agree. I don't see the need for them on bitumen, but I think they'd be the go for track driving at night.
Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 11:05 am
by drivesafe
I have two IPF driving lights permanently mounted on my front bumper and four Hella driving lights on the roof, mounted with a quick fit and release bar.
For normal running around I just have use the two IPFs but if I’m on a long trip, as it gets dark, I mount the roof lights because nothing gives better night road vision than the roof light and that’s on road as well as off road.
If your driving on winding roads, including highways and freeways, as the roof lights light up the areas to either side, you virtually can see around corners.
Before people knock roof lights, try going for a ride with someone who has them and see just how much SAFER they make night driving, on and off the black stuff.
Cheers.
Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 3:26 pm
by Micky-Lux
I had roof lights on my Zook, mounted on a modified "rolla" rack.
All in all, there were the H4 65/55w headlights, 2 x 150w on the bullbar, and 5 x 100w on the roof. Most of the lights were just some cheap crap, but what I didn't have in quality, I more than made up with in numbers.
The only dramas I had were not having enough horsepower to keep the 120amp EL Falcon alternator I fitted running, and the fact that drive belts only lasted about 6 months.
But the light when it worked was awesome.
Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 6:37 pm
by chimpboy
Roof lights are a bit overrated; I went to great lengths to install a set of four very good lights on the roof of a Patrol, and have since removed them in favour of bullbar-mounted ones.
They cause a lot of glare in the windscreen, or, if you position them far enough back not to cause glare, they give less light than you would get with bullbar-mounted ones.
On the other hand, they do make the car cool, look like something out of a movie.
ps I suspect windscreen angle might make a difference to how much glare they cause.