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80series transfer stick problems

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 8:59 pm
by udm
Ok, went out to test the new rear elocker, it was f$%king unreal, and what everybody says about them been slow, its all bull, it worked a treat, both locking and unlocking :D , want front elocker now :cool:

Now to the real deal, we were doing some low range stuff, and all of a sudden i notice the low/high range stick in the high range position :? , so tried moving it back and forth, and it was free moving, (you could still feel something was moving with it though), and transfer would not change to high range, after about 5minutes of fiddling it managed to shift to high range, so left it in high and got out straight away, (offroad in high, not funny I tell ya :x ), and went home.

I dont have time yet to check anything, but does anybody know if it is just a problem with the linkage or is it something internal?

Cheers

Ulises

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 7:49 am
by The Fish
Sounds like the tapered pin that secures the t/fer stick has come loose.

Just need to remove the plate that holds your rubber boots in place and you will find a 10mm or 12mm nut which will need tightening all good :armsup: Has happened to me before. Needed low range and wasn't in a position to muck around for 1/2 an hour so just put a cut in the boot to get to the nut :lol:

Cheers ;)

Re: 80series transfer stick problems

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 1:42 pm
by RUFF
udm wrote:Ok, went out to test the new rear elocker, it was f$%king unreal, and what everybody says about them been slow, its all bull, it worked a treat, both locking and unlocking :D , want front elocker now :cool:

Now to the real deal, we were doing some low range stuff, and all of a sudden i notice the low/high range stick in the high range position :? , so tried moving it back and forth, and it was free moving, (you could still feel something was moving with it though), and transfer would not change to high range, after about 5minutes of fiddling it managed to shift to high range, so left it in high and got out straight away, (offroad in high, not funny I tell ya :x ), and went home.

I dont have time yet to check anything, but does anybody know if it is just a problem with the linkage or is it something internal?

Cheers

Ulises
I didnt know Eaton made a locker to suit the Toyota centre?

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 2:10 pm
by simkell
what was the cost of the Elocker?
sounds alright.

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 3:56 pm
by kevdog
so there IS an elocker for the toyota.... i would like one for my hungy...links please??

or just where ya got it from

cheers

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 4:57 pm
by Chucky
kevdog wrote:so there IS an elocker for the toyota.... i would like one for my hungy...links please??

or just where ya got it from

cheers
stupid question time, is the elocker a electronic locker of some type, I have never heard of them. :oops:

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 5:31 pm
by udm
fixed the bastard this morn, it was the link balljoint at the transfer end that had lost the nut so it came off, new nut and washer and its running :D the stick always felt spongy, so maybe it has never been there, now its tight as...

Re: 80series transfer stick problems

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 5:33 pm
by udm
RUFF wrote:I didnt know Eaton made a locker to suit the Toyota centre?
Eaton? who or where is that? :D

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 5:37 pm
by udm
Chucky wrote:stupid question time, is the elocker a electronic locker of some type, I have never heard of them. :oops:
yep, its just an electric locker, its actuated by a little motor that is mounted on the 3rd, Its a toyota factory locker...

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 5:42 pm
by udm
and for the guys that ask where to get them from,

You really dont want to know how much they are brand new (genuine toyota), you have to get them from a wrecked car... saharas I think.

And price depends on what you find, they could be complete diffs, or just the centre, etc. Then you need to setup the electricals, which could be a pain in the arse for some.

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 5:43 pm
by tom_286
The Fish wrote:Sounds like the tapered pin that secures the t/fer stick has come loose.

Just need to remove the plate that holds your rubber boots in place and you will find a 10mm or 12mm nut which will need tightening all good :armsup: Has happened to me before. Needed low range and wasn't in a position to muck around for 1/2 an hour so just put a cut in the boot to get to the nut :lol:

Cheers ;)
Same thing happened to my brother's 80, right at the end of the day, luckerly it was stuck in high range, not low :)


Tom

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 5:50 pm
by kevdog
ahhh ok then.... that is exactly what i had in the back of my hilux...they work great... until they fill up with water but otherwise are awesome..

for te guy who asked all it does is drive a pin into one of the cluster gears effectively locking the diff.... simple and all electric.... another bit of info is that the microswitch for detecting locked or unlocked is an exxy item from toyota but it is exactly the same as a reverse indicator switch from a manual gearbox... cheap as from the shed if you have ever put a bigger motor in a lux.....

Re: 80series transfer stick problems

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 5:52 pm
by kevdog
udm wrote:
RUFF wrote:I didnt know Eaton made a locker to suit the Toyota centre?
Eaton? who or where is that? :D
the eaton elocker is an electric locker that you will find in a hummer...

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 6:03 pm
by udm
kevdog wrote:all it does is drive a pin into one of the cluster gears effectively locking the diff....
actually, this one works a little differently, when you lock it, the motor will push the fork and the gear will slide over the axle spline and lock it (axle) with the crown wheel...

some pics of the front locker...

Unlocked
http://downunder4x4.net/forum/attachmen ... 1183200298

Locked
http://downunder4x4.net/forum/attachmen ... 1183201170

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 7:05 pm
by udm
kevdog wrote:they work great... until they fill up with water
what you have to do is extend the actuators breather, just like you would with diff housings/gearbox/etc.

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 7:24 pm
by kevdog
cool.... bit different to how mine was.... and mine didnt have a breather :(

yours is more like a macnamara or maxi drive i guess.... cant remember which one but one of them works like that i think....

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 7:30 pm
by udm
if it had no breather, how can the water get in then :?

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 11:16 am
by Red Rover
The electric locker is great, when you get it to work correctly. I had to rewire the motor to make it effecient. Haven't had a problem with it for over 12 months or so since i redid the windings. The only downside is that it can take a little for the cogs to line up and mesh. The teeth are far coarser than an air locker therefore can take a little to mesh. Same with unlocking can take a little for it to disengage with some load on it. Still beats bloody air lines and leaking seals......................

Re: 80series transfer stick problems

Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 2:54 pm
by RUFF
udm wrote:
RUFF wrote:I didnt know Eaton made a locker to suit the Toyota centre?
Eaton? who or where is that? :D
When you refered to an E Locker i presumed you were talking about a E locker made by Eaton - http://reiderracing.com/elocker.htm

Rather than a Factory Toyota Electric Locker.