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How accurate/reliable are load testers?(and multi's)

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 8:31 am
by RockyF75
Having starting trouble, yesterday it wouldn't start in the morning, after going for a long drive the previous night (so i'm thinking the battery's not holding charge), but NRMA tells me its my Alternator, as their multimeter only read 12. sumthing at idle.

So I went down to a sparky's to make sure, and on his multimeter it reads ~13.4 at idle, and goes up a bit revving, so apparently the alt is good. But, engine off, he put the battery on a 'load tester' and it wasn't reading as high as it should, and then after when I went to start the car the battery was dead.

Now, this morning, it started fine :? How can a battery not hold its charge one night and then hold it fine the next? And if the auto elec's machine says the battery's cooked, is that definate? Cause i think NRMA are going to be reluctant to replace my battery (under warranty) since sometimes it starts and sometimes it doesn't, i'm worried they'll try and blame the alt :?

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 1:14 pm
by drivesafe
The way those voltages are varying so much, I would check your battery cables and connections before doing anything, especially your earth straps.

Just an idea.

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 1:39 pm
by j-top paj
check the connectors too. make sure the cables have a good solid connection to the battery

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 2:05 pm
by RockyF75
checked all the cables and connections, every things attached and tight.

Could it be the voltage regulator?

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 2:15 pm
by j-top paj
what did the sparky say about the alternator?

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 2:29 pm
by RockyF75
he said it was fine cause it was charging at ~13.4v Thats all we did to test the alt, put a multimeter to the + cable while the engine was running, and then again when it was off.

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 2:33 pm
by STIKA
what is the charging voltage at full load ie all lights and spotlights on


13.4 volts is at the lower end of the charging scale

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 2:42 pm
by RockyF75
I think it was around 12.5-12.9, but I'm not 100%

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 2:47 pm
by STIKA
with that sort of voltage it wont charge the battery

i would be taking the alternator off, take to an auto elect, get him to test it .

it may be brushes or the voltage regulator

13.4 is what i would expect ynder full load

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 2:58 pm
by RockyF75
fair enough. hopefully in a week or so I should have a spare 2nd hand one to play with, just cant afford to not have a car atm.

But the question still remains, if the leccy has tested the battery, and it fails on his machine, is the battery rooted? or could the alt not charging properly make it seem that the battery is dead (i realise that the battery not getting charged properly will shorten its life) I just don't want to throw out a perfectly good battery.

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 3:13 pm
by STIKA
charge it on a bench charger and see how it goes

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 3:30 pm
by j-top paj
STIKA wrote:charge it on a bench charger and see how it goes
;)