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7.8hp winch motors
Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 10:02 pm
by Big Red Toy
I've heard that there are some of these about on a few comp trucks, mainly the Qld guys i think, Any feedback appreciated
INterested to know are they quicker / pull harder & can they take 24v like the 6hp's can
Cheers
Andrew
Re: 7.8hp winch motors
Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 11:16 pm
by Evil 73
Big Red Toy wrote:I've heard that there are some of these about on a few comp trucks, mainly the Qld guys i think, Any feedback appreciated
INterested to know are they quicker / pull harder & can they take 24v like the 6hp's can
Cheers
Andrew
The only thing that would pull harder and faster than a 7.8 hp would be you Andrew.
Ben
Re: 7.8hp winch motors
Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 2:56 am
by tna racing
Evil 73 wrote:Big Red Toy wrote:I've heard that there are some of these about on a few comp trucks, mainly the Qld guys i think, Any feedback appreciated
INterested to know are they quicker / pull harder & can they take 24v like the 6hp's can
Cheers
Andrew
The only thing that would pull harder and faster than a 7.8 hp would be you Andrew.
Ben
haha thats funny. big red tools all right leave him alone lol
winch motors
Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 6:02 am
by WelchyGQ
the only ones i have found are from a company in NZ called taxion - got close to $1000 by the time all charges where paid.
Re: winch motors
Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 3:40 pm
by Big Red Toy
WelchyGQ wrote:the only ones i have found are from a company in NZ called taxion - got close to $1000 by the time all charges where paid.
Sweet, thats the answer i wanted
Cheers
Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 4:59 pm
by ludacris
The 7.8 hp motors are good. Been running mine for 2 years of comps on 12v and not a problem. Why not just grab the 24v 7.8hp. It will pull harder than the 6hp on 24v as it is the hp that it all comes down to.
The only problem I found with mine was I had to space the rear end plate. Not a problem really.
LudaCris
Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 5:57 pm
by mudtoy
double roller bearings
epoxy dipped armature
increased brush contact area
bolted and welded field connections
4.8, 6.8 & 7.8 in 12 and 24V
rated at 10,000 rpm no load (7.8 24V)
We may be doing something to get them here a lot cheaper.
Re: 7.8hp winch motors
Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 8:04 pm
by Evil 73
adam penfold wrote:Evil 73 wrote:Big Red Toy wrote:I've heard that there are some of these about on a few comp trucks, mainly the Qld guys i think, Any feedback appreciated
INterested to know are they quicker / pull harder & can they take 24v like the 6hp's can
Cheers
Andrew
The only thing that would pull harder and faster than a 7.8 hp would be you Andrew.
Ben
haha thats funny. big red tools all right leave him alone lol
Get a room!!!!!!!!
Ben
winch
Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 4:56 pm
by WelchyGQ
Mud toy,
when will you maby be doing this?
any details?
Pm me about it if you could please?
Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 9:40 pm
by Big Red Toy
Cool, so they sound like a top motor
Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 9:14 am
by The_Wazza
mudtoy wrote:double roller bearings
epoxy dipped armature
increased brush contact area
bolted and welded field connections
4.8, 6.8 & 7.8 in 12 and 24V
rated at 10,000 rpm no load (7.8 24V)
We may be doing something to get them here a lot cheaper.
Recently sent one of my Twin Mototr Adapters to NZ. He'll be running x2 7.8 motors. Can't wait to see the result!!
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 5:50 pm
by mudtoy
We should see this winch in action in a few weeks at the Rotorua winch challenge...
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 6:26 pm
by killbill
These motors are obviously not warn motors.my question is can the be put on a warn winch?
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 6:44 pm
by gqpete
killbill wrote:These motors are obviously not warn motors.my question is can the be put on a warn winch?
yep, they look like a 4 horse black plain motor external. bolt straight on and been around for a few years now.
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 6:51 pm
by killbill
Do u know of anyone running them at the moment Pete?
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 7:02 pm
by ads80
have heard rumors people tried putting 24v thru a 12v and didnt last long
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 7:34 pm
by beretta
Lots of people putting 24v thru 12v motors mate, probably the greater majority of the trucks in the Outback Challenge do this to get more gonads out of their winch motor. Nothin new.
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 7:38 pm
by killbill
Hey berretts how u doing Killbill here from group B outback 07 how did u enjoy it?Are u coming back next year?
I heard your making some enhancements to winches would like to find out more
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 7:51 pm
by beretta
G'day Bill, had heaps of fun mate, bloody muddy in that paddock for a few days, still trying to get that viewmont shity mud off the drizabone!
Mate I'll send you an email to catch up.
Cheers, Beretts
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 9:28 pm
by mudtoy
These motors are not Warn but will bolt straight up to a premiere, superwinch, warn and others...yes we have heard a rumour that someone put 24V through a 12V and burnt it out...but we know for a fact that Warns burn out on a regular basis at any voltage under comp situations...whilst that is easy to say (and we do see it regularly), it also needs to be taken into account that Warn motors are the main ones being used under these conditions...so any quoted statistics or anecdotal evidence or opinions or heresay should be taken with a grain of salt...
...all we are saying is that these look like a great alternative and we are trying to get some out here to give them a serious testing...I have seen them used extensively in another country but I do want to see how they go here.
If we can get them cheaper than a Warn motor or similar...and they perform better...would people be interested?
Re: winch motors
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 9:37 pm
by Ruffy
WelchyGQ wrote:the only ones i have found are from a company in NZ called taxion - got close to $1000 by the time all charges where paid.
Beretta off here was looking at them some time ago.. Might be worth a PM to see if he's got anywhere with them.
EDIT
oops should have kept reading!
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 9:45 pm
by killbill
Does anyone know how much these motors (7.8hp) are ?
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 10:03 pm
by gqpete
killbill wrote:Does anyone know how much these motors (7.8hp) are ?
bill. get one of these motors 12v (they rev) and a set of albrites from beretta and your away. if thats not enough double up above and get addaptor off wazza then your set
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 10:15 pm
by mudtoy
We are still waiting to hear back from the supplier and will then coordinate a local importer/distributer...as soon as we have prices and any other info, I will post it up...the positive thing is that people are interested...
winch
Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 6:12 am
by WelchyGQ
mudtoy,
definatly interested if the priece is right. Just wondering what sort of time frame we are lookign at?
Welchy
Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 5:54 pm
by mudtoy
We have a meeting overseas this Monday with the supplier...will know more then.
We are looking at asap...but that said we want to get some out here first for testing and hook up a distributor.
Cheers,
Simon.
Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 8:22 pm
by Bluey
good news mudtoy. i'm in the market for upgrading my winch, and a 7.8hp motor would be very cool
cheers
Bluey
winch
Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 5:55 am
by WelchyGQ
do you need any volunters for the testing process?
Any idea yet as to what price, rough enough is good enough atm?
Welchy
Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 9:26 pm
by mudtoy
Just back from OS...all is looking good and will put up approximate prices shortly.
Found out that these have been used in winch challenges in NZ for ten years without failure. The only problems are when you put 24 through a 12...they do it but are not guaranteed.
The 7.8 24V gives the biggest increase in both torque and no load speed...apparently very noticeable.
The 7.8 12V is only slightly quicker at no load, but under load the extra torque really shows...and from what we discussed they have a far superior duty cycle and are tougher...and I'm talking long deep sticky NZ mud pulls.
Cheers,
Simon.
Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 8:52 am
by chunderlicious
very interested, does anyone have a load speed comparo (i know its hard but roughly the same conditions and setup)