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Just hit a stump

Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 4:07 pm
by speed=t/d
Need some advice. Just collected a stump (very large stump) at about 20 - 30 k's. on the drivers side front wheel. (stopped the vehcile 03' GU TD6 S/Wagon). :oops: :cry:

Bent the steering arm (top) like a banana and the bottom control arm) just after the steering damper near the L/H wheel. The steering pulled hard to the right when collision occurred.

The steering wheel position is now almost in the upside down position when wheels are straight. Obviously need a wheel alignment and I'll have to take the wheel off (alloy factory) to see if its still round.

Can't seem to find anything else bent ...anything else to check when the front wheel has a big impact like this? These really are tough trucks..I couldn't believe that was all that was wrong as it was quite a big hit.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions. And also should i just replace the arms with standard new nissan parts?

Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 4:39 pm
by j-top paj
pics?

Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 4:46 pm
by speed=t/d
I've got some but don't know how to upload on here. I'll have a look around and see if I can figure it out.

Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 4:50 pm
by j-top paj
photobucket

Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 5:01 pm
by Tiny
I would imagine is is likely that you have bent the housing as well, that is a big hit and to have bent a control arm :shock: I think the diff may be bent as well, maybe replce the bent stuff throw the spare on and get a full alignment and check for camber etc

Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 5:16 pm
by ludacris
I doubt you have bent the housing. Easy to fix though. I have seen many control arms get bent and snap and housing was good. Some were not braced either if any one is wondering. If you did not blow the tyre than I doubt the rim is damaged. Insurance will sort it out for you. The patrol steering arms are weak as piss so that is a good excuse to get some aftermarket ones. Steering is out because you have bent both tie rod and drag link.

LudaCris

Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 5:20 pm
by speed=t/d
here are the photo links to photobucket. haven't done this before so I hope it works.

Ludacris thanks for your reply, what do you recommend as replacements? And is it a good thing they are a bit weak as they may have given some instead of something more expensive? just a thought.

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa51 ... C02618.jpg
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa51 ... C02620.jpg

Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 5:27 pm
by ludacris
Every thing looks fine exept for the front arm. You can pull it off and straighten it by yourself but do replace it with a Superior engineering one asap as it has a weak link now.

LudaCris

Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 5:31 pm
by Tiny
ludacris wrote:Every thing looks fine exept for the front arm. You can pull it off and straighten it by yourself but do replace it with a Superior engineering one asap as it has a weak link now.

LudaCris
agree, replace it and get the checks done

Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 5:32 pm
by badger
little note tho for poeple with the early gq steering boxes. dont upgrade the steering arms untill you get a big box as next time the worm drive in the steering box will break:P


id say you wont havnt damaged too much more than the steering arms
id get new arms and take it to an alignment shop they will be able to tell you what else if anything is out.

Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 5:33 pm
by speed=t/d
Thanks guys, appreciate the input. regards, Chris

Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 5:34 pm
by badger
ps if you do find the housing is bent pm me

Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 7:10 pm
by j-top paj
Image

:shock:

Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 8:50 pm
by Ryan
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa51 ... C02618.jpg

just a quick note, as to me it looks like you are saying you bent the steering arm, and also put a bend just past your steering dampener in this pic, that bend in the pic is factory, its so as your panhard clears the control arm brackets on ur diff :) jus so you know,

i may have read it wrong also. as ive had a few heheh :armsup:

Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 10:47 pm
by kirragc
what hasnt everyone done this.............

Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 10:49 pm
by j-top paj
good thing it was in a trol and not some other weak POS :armsup:

Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 10:51 pm
by j-top paj
speed=t/d wrote:

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what motor u running?[/img]

Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 11:03 pm
by hammey
Just received a heavy duty drag link from superior engineering to day :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: f--k it looks strong.. $335 with dampner bracket..

money well spent :armsup: :armsup:

Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 11:19 pm
by j-top paj
got a snake cromoly one in mine and fark its heavy :shock:
hopefully strong too :armsup:

Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 11:20 pm
by j-top paj
ryan didnt charge me that much but :shock:

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 1:42 pm
by speed=t/d
I'm running the 4.2L Turbo Diesel ......whats the recommendation for the replacement? I have also some pannel damage front side step and guard and drivers door so its going to be a insurance claim. I haven't priced a genuine Nissan arm yet (that's what they will want to replace it with) but I should be able to nominate if I make up the price difference.

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 2:35 pm
by badger
id honestly doubt there would be much price difference between the stealers n superior

Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 1:07 pm
by hammey
j-top paj wrote:ryan didnt charge me that much but :shock:
I priced 3rds heavy duty.. $440 without dampner bracket.... :shock:

Ive seen the Snake drag link and that would be more than enough for weekend work... :finger: :D :shock:

Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 1:23 pm
by Tiny
hammey wrote:
j-top paj wrote:ryan didnt charge me that much but :shock:
I priced 3rds heavy duty.. $440 without dampner bracket.... :shock:

Ive seen the Snake drag link and that would be more than enough for weekend work... :finger: :D :shock:
I have seen a 3rds arm take the brunt of a GQ landing on it with little more than some rock rash to show for it, $440 may sound steep but they are the ducks nuts IMO

Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 1:36 pm
by hammey
Tiny wrote:
hammey wrote:
j-top paj wrote:ryan didnt charge me that much but :shock:
I priced 3rds heavy duty.. $440 without dampner bracket.... :shock:

Ive seen the Snake drag link and that would be more than enough for weekend work... :finger: :D :shock:
I have seen a 3rds arm take the brunt of a GQ landing on it with little more than some rock rash to show for it, $440 may sound steep but they are the ducks nuts IMO
In no way questioning their integrity Tiny.... just doing the price comparison..

cheers smitty

I dont care how much you rip me j-top paj, you still cant have my car :rofl: :rofl:

Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 7:48 pm
by j-top paj
hammey wrote:

I dont care how much you rip me j-top paj, you still cant have my car :rofl: :rofl:
wah? :?

Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 7:49 pm
by j-top paj
Tiny wrote:
hammey wrote:
j-top paj wrote:ryan didnt charge me that much but :shock:
I priced 3rds heavy duty.. $440 without dampner bracket.... :shock:

Ive seen the Snake drag link and that would be more than enough for weekend work... :finger: :D :shock:
I have seen a 3rds arm take the brunt of a GQ landing on it with little more than some rock rash to show for it, $440 may sound steep but they are the ducks nuts IMO
how would you compare 3rds to snake stuff?

Re: Just hit a stump

Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 8:29 pm
by benhl
speed=t/d wrote: Bent the steering arm (top) like a banana CORRECT YOU DID!and the bottom control arm???) just after the steering damper near the L/H wheel. NO YOU DIDN'T THIS IS FACTORY AS HAS BEEN MENTIONED The steering pulled hard to the right when collision occurred.

The steering wheel position is now almost in the upside down position when wheels are straight. Obviously need a wheel alignment and I'll have to take the wheel off (alloy factory) to see if its still round.

Can't seem to find anything else bent ... HOW ABOUT WHAT APPEARS TO BE A CRACK IN THE FRONT BUSH SURROUND OF THE CONTROL ARM (AS OPPOSED TO THE PANHARD ROD THAT I THINK YOU CALLED A CONTROL ARM). COULD BE THE PICTURE BUT IT LOOKS LIKE A HAIRLINE CRACK... anything else to check when the front wheel has a big impact like this? These really are tough trucks..I couldn't believe that was all that was wrong as it was quite a big hit.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions. And also should i just replace the arms with standard new nissan parts?