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Winch motor terminals

Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 4:24 pm
by sierrajim
Needing to extend the cables between the winch motor and the control box on an old WARN winch. Murphy's law, two leads come off with no hassle, the third however decided not to play nice.

Now the nut is part of the way out, the stud starts to spin, the nut won't come off. What holds the studs in?

Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 5:05 pm
by bigcam
they go through an insulator into the housing, i have had mine apart but never notices what was holding them in, most likely a low profile nut recessed into the insulator? my suggestion back the nut back down and spray with some penetrene for a couple of days go back out and spray every couple of hours then gently try to wind the nut off. clean the threads with a wire brush or hold the stud from inside hte motor with some multigrips but you might be pushing for room inside!

Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 8:29 pm
by hammey
how about cutting a slot in the stud with two hacksaw blades together and use a ring spanner while holding the stud with a screw driver and shifter.

or use a thread file...

cheers smitty

Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 8:48 pm
by sierrajim
Have sprayed rust buster on it last night, this morning and tonight, will do the same tomorrow and give it a crack. If it doesn't work i'll have to take the F@RKING bar off that i just fitted :bad-words:

Will post up how it goes.

Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 11:19 am
by RoldIT
They are a bolt like stud(but not really any head to get a spanner on), installed in the motor from the inside out. Unfortunately virtually impossible to get something on the other side , even if the motor was out of the winch.

The first nut on the stud, closest to the motor housing is the lock nut that is supposed to stop the stud spinning. When I rebuild my motor, I need to uses 3 nuts on the stud. I used 2 nuts to lock on to each other then used those 2 to hold the stud tight while I tightened the 3 third nut up, locking the post to the housing. Obviously then removed the 2 lock nuts to install the cable.

I'm guessing if your cable is still installed, you won't have enough thread to add the temporary lock nut to undo the rest, but this may give you a few ideas.

(Not sure if this makes sense but it does in my mind. :D )

Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 7:52 pm
by -Scott-
RoldIT wrote:They are a bolt like stud(but not really any head to get a spanner on), installed in the motor from the inside out. Unfortunately virtually impossible to get something on the other side , even if the motor was out of the winch.

The first nut on the stud, closest to the motor housing is the lock nut that is supposed to stop the stud spinning. When I rebuild my motor, I need to uses 3 nuts on the stud. I used 2 nuts to lock on to each other then used those 2 to hold the stud tight while I tightened the 3 third nut up, locking the post to the housing. Obviously then removed the 2 lock nuts to install the cable.

I'm guessing if your cable is still installed, you won't have enough thread to add the temporary lock nut to undo the rest, but this may give you a few ideas.

(Not sure if this makes sense but it does in my mind. :D )
It made sense to me - but I've been through this stuff before. :D

From sierrajims's description, it doesn't sound like there's a lock nut. :?

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 1:51 pm
by Loanrangie
I had a similar prob on mine last night, finally got around to mounting the control box under my bar and when fitting the cables one of the nuts was locking up and it seemed like it was spinning, undid it and sprayed with wd40 and left for 10 mins or so had another go and it was fine.
A bit ot but on a warn M8000 what position should the free spool lever be in for winching ? the pdf manual i had says what its for but not how to use it.