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2.8 lux drama urgent...

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 7:40 am
by Lux_89
hey guys.. cold enuf for ya's?? :rofl: another 2.8 drama.. thought id fixed it cuz the battery didnt have enuf contact on the tenminals last weekend but its all good now, got up for work and wont start again.. got power, goes to glow, wen the glow light goes out i hit it and just get a single click.. all fuses and to my knowledge the relays are all good too..thoguth cold mornin altinator might be a lil cold give it a tap and inox on all connections and still no go.. can one of you genious's on here who fixed it last time fix it this time too? Thanks a million guys, appreciate it.

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 8:15 am
by dfj20
Starter motor Solenoid

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 8:45 am
by Zam
Yep x2 for the Starter Motor solenoid, else the starter motor iteself.

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 8:52 am
by Lux_89
ok cheers guys.. the only thing i dont no where that particular 1 is. Where abouts is that soliniod located? I just also swapped the self timer and glow relay's with no go. so just need to locate the starter sloinoid located? Thanks for the quick re

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 9:11 am
by ausyota
Try whacking the starter with a lump of wood or simmilar.
When the solenoid starts to bugger up it can stick and can be made to work with a whack.
It will need replacing though ASAP.

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 9:20 am
by Lux_89
ok no worries, yeh i got it to work by tapping it, so im off to work now to keep the boss happy.. you guys recon just go exchange one? Ok thanks soo much boys!! appreciate it greatly!

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 9:23 am
by Brainless
take the starter to an auto elec and get them to have a look at it, they should be able to tell you which option you should bother with

Either Replace parts of that one, fully rebuild that one or get a brand spanka

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 11:20 am
by daveo
i just had to replace the starter on my 5L lux. 3 options: get a starter from a wreckers etc, with no gurantee on the history, get it repaired by an auto electrician which can get exy quickly or get a reco/aftermarket from an auto electrician (which is what i did $400). new genuine ones from toyota are $1200!

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 12:16 pm
by trains
take the starter motor out.
Take the end off the solenoid, the smaller bit on the top of the motor.

Replace the 2 contacts if required, (10 bucks from auto elecs) and clean the circular disc that connects the contacts thats on the solenoid bit.
Clean and ensure its all working well, and not sticking.

Have fixed several, and they have years on them now after that.

Trains

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 1:18 pm
by ausyota
trains wrote:take the starter motor out.
Take the end off the solenoid, the smaller bit on the top of the motor.

Replace the 2 contacts if required, (10 bucks from auto elecs) and clean the circular disc that connects the contacts thats on the solenoid bit.
Clean and ensure its all working well, and not sticking.

Have fixed several, and they have years on them now after that.

Trains
Does that apply to zook sierra starters too?
I have a dicky one at the moment on the wifes zook that is sticking and needing a tap every now and then.

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 4:52 pm
by Lux_89
ok so i got it working... ive got a hilux that im wrecking atm and its got a 5L 3litre out of the newer model in it.. will the 5L starter go into the 2.8?? or is it completely different... just to save some gino's. Cheers

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 11:01 pm
by Sic Lux
Pull them out and see, or call repco and price both starters and ask for both part numbers if there the same part number it'll fit. Yeah sounds like a solinoid. i wouldn't hit it too hard from what i've been told magnets don't like shock and some newer starters don't like a little tap. being a lux it should be hardy enough for a little tap

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 4:26 pm
by Guy
ausyota wrote:
trains wrote:take the starter motor out.
Take the end off the solenoid, the smaller bit on the top of the motor.

Replace the 2 contacts if required, (10 bucks from auto elecs) and clean the circular disc that connects the contacts thats on the solenoid bit.
Clean and ensure its all working well, and not sticking.

Have fixed several, and they have years on them now after that.

Trains
Does that apply to zook sierra starters too?
I have a dicky one at the moment on the wifes zook that is sticking and needing a tap every now and then.
Zuks are notorious for the whole "clicky starter"

try some of these
http://www.google.com.au/search?sourcei ... arter+fix+

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 5:07 pm
by high n mighty
Lux_89 wrote:ok so i got it working... ive got a hilux that im wrecking atm and its got a 5L 3litre out of the newer model in it.. will the 5L starter go into the 2.8?? or is it completely different... just to save some gino's. Cheers
Unfortunately I think they will be different as the two models both have different engines and gearboxs.

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 5:49 pm
by RUFF
Lux_89 wrote:ok so i got it working... ive got a hilux that im wrecking atm and its got a 5L 3litre out of the newer model in it.. will the 5L starter go into the 2.8?? or is it completely different... just to save some gino's. Cheers
There both L series engines it will fit exactly the same.

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 11:52 am
by trains
ausyota wrote:
trains wrote:take the starter motor out.
Take the end off the solenoid, the smaller bit on the top of the motor.

Replace the 2 contacts if required, (10 bucks from auto elecs) and clean the circular disc that connects the contacts thats on the solenoid bit.
Clean and ensure its all working well, and not sticking.

Have fixed several, and they have years on them now after that.

Trains
Does that apply to zook sierra starters too?
I have a dicky one at the moment on the wifes zook that is sticking and needing a tap every now and then.

Depends on wheather or not its caused due to voltage drop.
The lux's have a solenoid, thus the issue of voltage drop is somewhat reduced.
My old falcon (1965 xp) had a clicky starter, all batt connects on the high amp side were fine, it was the lack of voltage getting thru the starter switch to the solenoid, that would not allow the solenoid to properly engage, thus the click click when turning to crank.
Fitting a solenoid fixed this problem.

T

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 8:41 pm
by Lux_89
thanks all and high and mighty the lux that i had was an aftermarket donk it was a 94 single cab with the 5l dropped into it and was running a g52 behind it.. so thats why i think it will fit, still didnt fix it yet so i hope it last to next weekend, and yeh ill try not to bash the :bad-words: out of it wen it breaks :rofl: i got a bad tempa..

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 8:59 pm
by RUFF
Lux_89 wrote:thanks all and high and mighty the lux that i had was an aftermarket donk it was a 94 single cab with the 5l dropped into it and was running a g52 behind it.. so thats why i think it will fit, still didnt fix it yet so i hope it last to next weekend, and yeh ill try not to bash the :bad-words: out of it wen it breaks :rofl: i got a bad tempa..
You dont need to think it will fit. IT WILL FIT. They are interchangable. Chances are the one out of your old hilux is still the original 2.8 starter anyway.