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HELP WITH PERTRONIX IGNITOR, electronic ignition,

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 1:21 pm
by bucketofbolts
i've installed a pertronix ignitor and i'm having some drama's.

i have installed it as to instructions, (well i think i have)
red wire from ignitor to positive side if ballist resistor,
black wire from ignitor to negitive side of coil,
i'm thinking i've stuft something up,

(i have also installed new leads, plugs and coil),

the problem is
i have no spark coming from the coil, i'm thinking the ignitor is not sending the spark to the coil,

any ideas or help would be great, i'm at a loss at the moment,

cheers ray

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 6:38 pm
by simcoz
Mine done this aswell,ended up being the small earth wire in th dizzy i left off.Put it back on and she fired up sweet then i reset the timing and haven't looked back.

Hope this helps


Coza

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 6:44 pm
by bucketofbolts
thats what worries me, because mine still has that,
i took that wire off and cleaned under it with fine sand paper and still nothing,

im at a loss,

cheers ray

Re: HELP WITH PERTRONIX IGNITOR, electronic ignition,

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 6:59 pm
by Mowie
bucketofbolts wrote:i've installed a pertronix ignitor and i'm having some drama's.

i have installed it as to instructions, (well i think i have)
red wire from ignitor to positive side if ballist resistor,
black wire from ignitor to negitive side of coil,
i'm thinking i've stuft something up,

(i have also installed new leads, plugs and coil),

the problem is
i have no spark coming from the coil, i'm thinking the ignitor is not sending the spark to the coil,

any ideas or help would be great, i'm at a loss at the moment,

cheers ray
I had this at first when I installed mine.
Is it the Lobe sensor model?

You got to spacing of the sensor from the shaft just right. I don't know the exact measurment, it took me a few goes at it until it kicked over.

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 7:01 pm
by bucketofbolts
that has me stuft to, because there is a locating screw so that there is no real adjustment,

thanks

cheers ray

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 7:32 pm
by Mowie
bucketofbolts wrote:that has me stuft to, because there is a locating screw so that there is no real adjustment,

thanks

cheers ray
I found that there was a mm or two of movement until the two screws were tight. It may be something else in your system thats causing the problem, in the end I found that to be the problem in mine.

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 8:16 pm
by killer_garden_gnome
remove the whole condenser bit of the loom because u dont need it, there should be 2 condensers attached, make sure ur wires are connected and theres not somethin small causin ur sensor to not get power, u might have lost ur power to the coil or somethin like that, the lobe sensor needs 0.77mm clearance if i remeber right and u should have got a small plastic shim in ur kit to adjust that, make sure u use the screws provided and there should be plenty of movement 3-4 mm, i think u need to screw the pivot screw right down (that might be wrong i cant remember exactly) then adjust and lock it up if u have more than a mm of clearance it definitly wont tell the coil to fire

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 8:22 pm
by bucketofbolts
thanks for that, i will check all that tomorrow, its to bloody cold now, just come inside then,

it is probarly something simple, like the gap, its defintly not timing, well not yet, i just rotated the dizzy while trying to start it, no different,

cheers ray

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 9:00 pm
by killer_garden_gnome
yeh but said ur not gettin a spark, timing wont matter until it actually sparks, or do u not know the plugs arent actually sparkin ur just guessin from it not firing?

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 9:14 pm
by bucketofbolts
na, it hasn't got spark at the coil, im just trying anything at the moment,

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 9:59 pm
by killer_garden_gnome
if u got a multimeter, just check u have volts at the coil with the key ON. then check ur primary and secondry resistance of ur coil to make sure its still ok

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 6:34 am
by lowexf
Which side of the ballast did you wire it up to?

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 4:27 pm
by bucketofbolts
the side that doesn't run the earth to the motor,

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 4:33 pm
by rOd
bucketofbolts wrote:the side that doesn't run the earth to the motor,
Just make sure its the side with the "two red wires" that you've connected it to.

Rod

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 4:43 pm
by bucketofbolts
sorry, its the side that runs to the earth to the motor. and 2 reds wires,

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 4:58 pm
by rOd
Maybe try putting your old coil back on see if that works.

Rod

PS:
This wont help.
I sold my petrol GQ last weekend and I so dont miss it!

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 5:07 pm
by bucketofbolts
i just put a multi meter on the 2 wires coming from the ignitor, no ohms registed,

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 7:26 pm
by lowexf
as said earlier by someone, do away with the condensor, and the original wiring fron the distributor to coil, and run a new wire. Then run the power wire to the battery voltage side of the ballast resistor.

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 7:30 pm
by bucketofbolts
lowexf wrote:as said earlier by someone, do away with the condensor, and the original wiring fron the distributor to coil, and run a new wire. Then run the power wire to the battery voltage side of the ballast resistor.
i have done away with teh original wiring and have run the red ignitor wire to the ballist resistor and black wire to to neg on coil,

is this right,

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 7:34 pm
by killer_garden_gnome
yep as long as ur gettin 12v to the ignitor not the 8v or whatever is supplied from going thru the resistor, just check with ur multi the voltage at ur ignitor (red) power wireu should register somethin like 3 ohms at the coil but sounds like ur coil has packed it in

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 7:39 pm
by bucketofbolts
i have put a new coil on, its showing 1.9ohms and so is the old one,

i have nothing when testing the ignitor, even when the engine is turning over,

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 8:04 pm
by killer_garden_gnome
u havent blown a fuse while muckin around with it all, u should have power there when the key is at the ON position.

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 8:10 pm
by bucketofbolts
who knows,

what fuse should i be looking for, (in the drivers side kick panel) or somewhere else

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 8:18 pm
by killer_garden_gnome
yeh the kick panel. just have a look there see if theres any gone that refer to engine control or igntion

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 8:24 pm
by bucketofbolts
will check that and see what happens,

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 8:37 pm
by bucketofbolts
just checked all fuses, they seem ok,

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 8:57 pm
by rOd
Its begining to sound like the Pertronix unit that you have is stuffed. :?

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 9:07 pm
by bucketofbolts
yeah, thats what im thinking,

i'm tried to ring them, but there 17 hours behind, and it was 12.19am (there) at 5.20pm here,
so i will ring them soon,

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 6:53 pm
by bucketofbolts
just ran a wire from positive on battery to pos on ignitor and had the multi meter on the earth from ignitor to the body (earth) and still nothing,

im suspecting the ignitor is stuft,

ray

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 7:15 pm
by killer_garden_gnome
isnt the black wire meant to goto ur coil -ve? i dont know that what u are doing will do anything becasue ur supplying power but the lobe sensor will be releasing said power to the coil, if ur lobes are spinning ur sensors not doing anything therefore u wont have a multimeter reading