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Advice on 4WD up to $10,000

Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2003 1:15 pm
by ca18escort
Hi Guys,
I have just joined the forum on some advice from the guys at PF. I am looking at buying a new 4WD but I am looking for some advice on what would be best. Basically:

Has to be either a tray back or styleside so that I can cart the bike around.

Love for it to be an extra cab/ Club cab setup

Will be doing moderate off roading but nothing too extreme. I am happy to fit lockers to it to give me that little bit extra.

Last but not least, it will also be my daily driver so nothing too outlandish and the newer the better so A/C and Power steering is a real bonus for when me and the missus go camping.

Thanks guys.

Paul

Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2003 3:02 pm
by chimpboy
I reckon you want a Rodeo or Navara.

Jason

Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2003 3:18 pm
by 4sum4
Get a hilux for sure, Toyotas never say die!!

Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2003 5:00 pm
by Surfection
A quick search in the trading post netted me these few. I agree with chimpboy, a rodeo or navara sounds like it suits you best, more comfortable onroad for the DD duties, and can be modded to fit 33z easy, lockers and you'd be sweet.

#1 "Holden Rodeo 1993 DLX Spacecab ute 4 x 4 turbo diesel, alloy tray, air conditioning, power steering, big new wheels, rego until 8/9/2004, factory condition, must see, $9700, MOUNT PRITCHARD"

#2 "HOLDEN RODEO 4WD Dual cab, power steering, air conditioning, $9995, Call now for no deposit finance. DL-17222. 318 Parramatta Road HOMEBUSH WEST "

#3 "Holden Rodeo dual cab ute 1993, bull-bar, long range tank, 31in tyres, registered 7/2004, very reliable, $9900 negotiable, INGLEBURN "

#4 "HOLDEN RODEO LS Space Cab 4 x 4, 1995, 2.6 Hi Torque, 5 speed manual, air, steer, luxury interior, good service history, 241000 mainly country kms, looks and drives like much less, 6/2004 rego, $9950. DL15853 Wayne Elven WINDSOR"

#5 "Nissan Navara 1991 4WD King Cab, 2.4 5 speed, power steer, air, bull-bar, towbar, $10990. DL-16118, Bob Calton Motors BROADMEADOW"

#6 "NISSAN NAVARA KING
Cab 1991 4x4 ute, white manual, steer, air, long rego, towbar, bull-bar, $10990, DL-16316, Highland Motors COOMA"

#7 "Hilux 1988 2.4 turbo diesel, lifted, with other extras, engineer's certificate, excellent condition, $9500, BARNSLEY"

#8 " Hilux V8 Windsor 1987 utility, Sunraysias, bull-bar, side-bars, CD, UHF, 6in lift, twin gas tanks, snorkel, bucket seats, 2/2004 rego, $9500 or near offer WEST WYALONG"

#9 "TOYOTA HILUX 1985 Manual, 210000kms, air, raised suspension, new Goodrich tyres, excellent condition, only 2 owners, $7990, The Van Shop, 1 Parramatta Road HABERFIELD"

#10 " Toyota Hilux 1987 4WD dual cab 2.4 diesel, lift kit, flares, bullbar, towbar, rollbars, bodies, long rego, immaculate throughout, $7200, GUILDFORD"

As you can see the hilux's are quite a bit older in most cases here, they seem to hold their value a bit better than the others, but have higher k's and don't seem to be in as good nick. But anyway, each to his own i guess. HTH

Jeremy :D

Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2003 5:02 pm
by Surfection
and the lux

Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2003 5:04 pm
by N*A*M
i would get a rodeo and lower it

would look pimpin' as and would be easier to load up too! :D

Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2003 5:13 pm
by Surfection
like this one ;)

"HOLDEN RODEO 1992 Dual cab ute, white, auto, 8 months rego, 4 door, 2.6L, extractors, engineered brake system, air, steer, towbar, central locking, alarm system, HSV mags, low profile tyres, CD player, racing steering wheel, customised chrome sides, tonneau cover $8900 negotiable APPIN"

Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2003 5:21 pm
by N*A*M
yep just like that :cool:

just needs black tint, 18s and airbags :lol:

Re: Advice on 4WD up to $10,000

Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2003 6:22 pm
by Beastmavster
ca18escort wrote:Hi Guys,
I have just joined the forum on some advice from the guys at PF. I am looking at buying a new 4WD but I am looking for some advice on what would be best. Basically:

Has to be either a tray back or styleside so that I can cart the bike around.

Love for it to be an extra cab/ Club cab setup

Thanks guys.

Paul


Seen Rodeo 3.5 V6 dual cabs for about the price you're looking for heaps of times..... even 1997 models for around $11k.

Likewise finding early 90's Navara dual cabs for about 8-10k ain't that hard either.

The Navara is tougher but the Isuzu/Rodeo has a heaps more powerful engine.

Seriously... the Hiluxes are way overpriced in this market.

If you really wanted a hilux, buy a 4runner and take the fibreglass off.

If you want to turn the 4by into an offroad beast you'd buy a GQ Ute anyway...... and it'd still be heaps cheaper than a similar model hilux....


Hiluxes hare reached the point in their evolution where their resale prices will make them an option only for those who think having a toyota badge is the most important thing in the world.

Hilux/Toyota "unbreakable" reliability is based on a perception from 30 years ago when jap cars were reliable and aussie cars weren't... a triton, navara or even a mazda bravo is every bit as reliable at a fraction of the price.

Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2003 6:52 pm
by bagsy
dude, if you come up with 11,500 , you could buy my beast.Its in the for sale section, fj45 1983 tray back. Theres power steering , but as far as air con goes,i just open the windows !!.

I dont recommend the navara s , youll bottem it out going over a speed bump at the local supermarket...

Just my opinion.... shane.

Re: Advice on 4WD up to $10,000

Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2003 10:40 pm
by 4sum4
ca18escort wrote:Hi Guys,
I have just joined the forum on some advice from the guys at PF. I am looking at buying a new 4WD but I am looking for some advice on what would be best. Basically:

Has to be either a tray back or styleside so that I can cart the bike around.

Love for it to be an extra cab/ Club cab setup

Will be doing moderate off roading but nothing too extreme. I am happy to fit lockers to it to give me that little bit extra.

Last but not least, it will also be my daily driver so nothing too outlandish and the newer the better so A/C and Power steering is a real bonus for when me and the missus go camping.

Thanks guys.

Paul


just say you get a toyota and you`ve already found this site youve probably cought the 4B bug.There are heaps of after market products for hiluxs and heaps of spares at the wreckers.

Re: Advice on 4WD up to $10,000

Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2003 10:58 pm
by bogged
Had a 1990 Rodeo 2wd, that was FLOGGED mercilessly around aussie many times towing upto 5 road racebikes on ute and trailers, and full kit, tools, etc .... Fucking magic, never had a problem EVER....

Would buy another one tomorrow without a problem

Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2003 7:56 am
by Bitsamissin
Well I saw several Navara's and Hiluxes (current models) that were being repaired where the Jabber was. They had their bodies removed so you could have a really good look at the running gear.
Most of the damage was from bent/twisted chassis and they were put on a rack to be straightened.
The Toyota unbreakable myth is absolute garbage the Navara is stronger and beefier, the front diff size of the IFS Hilux is an absolute joke and the chassis is nowhere near as strong.
Toyota have really sucked the public in with that one.....................

Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2003 8:31 am
by ca18escort
I notice that not too many people have mentioned a Triton, why is that?? As for the Hilux's I have allready owned 2 V8's But I am looking for something a little more refined the red one had a 308 and the green one had a 4.4 leyland engine. The green one had a 2" lift and a set of 33 muds on it too before I sold it. The thing is I really don't want a dual cab and there is what the majority of Rodeo's and Navara's are.

Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2003 10:32 am
by 4sum4
If your already had 2 trucks, just get out and test drive as many cars as you like and make your own personal decision.

Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2003 3:22 pm
by -Mick-
I notice that not too many people have mentioned a Triton, why is that??


My mates saw one catch fire up the beach a couple of days ago slogging through the soft sand :shock: :shock: :shock:

The advice above is all good, just go out and drive every single cab thing with a t-case you see in your price range and pick one ;)

The generation of commercial utes you're lookin at are all VERY similar in reality with the biggest differences in engine or suspension (or price for a toyota :roll: )

Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2003 9:52 am
by ca18escort
Thanks guys,
I am planning on buying within the next couple of weeks so I will let you know how I go.

Cheers
Paul

Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2003 12:01 pm
by Juzza
Bitsamissin wrote:Well I saw several Navara's and Hiluxes (current models) that were being repaired where the Jabber was. They had their bodies removed so you could have a really good look at the running gear.
Most of the damage was from bent/twisted chassis and they were put on a rack to be straightened.
The Toyota unbreakable myth is absolute garbage the Navara is stronger and beefier, the front diff size of the IFS Hilux is an absolute joke and the chassis is nowhere near as strong.
Toyota have really sucked the public in with that one.....................


Best thing about Toyota is their ad department. :roll:

Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2003 1:34 pm
by ca18escort
I ended up getting a V6 Club Cab that I was talking about for $8250. I will post some pics when I pic it up on friday.

Cheers
Paul