Outer Limits 4x4 Board

hey guys just looking for some input i have a swb mav 3inch coils 2 inch body all the bits and peices i am in the market for new tyres so here are my options tell me what you think!!!!


35x11.5x15 simex centipedes $395 a tire


Q78 swampers $380 a tire


or 35x11.5x15 silverstone extremes (centipede look alike) $295 a tire + 20 buck to fit and balance so $315 a tire


what would you go for i do most of my driving in the high country with some gembrook, neerim south, toolangi and some snow driving chucked in.

I sold my silverstones and put centipedes back on

Never had swampers maybe i'll try them next time

what was wrong with the silverstones??? just wondering i have had a few people warn me off them but then i know people who love them. none has given any real reasons for their dislike of then though

I didn;t do many kays on them, but found the simexsbetter on the fast dirt, wet asphalt, the silverstones were pretty loose to drive on, and they're undersize compared to the simex

I had 35x11.5 silverstones and they measured the same width as the 10.5 centipedes and a little shorter

thanks cloughy appreciate the feedback would love to hear from others that have run silverstone extremes and q78's. i have driven on pedes before and like them but would like to try something different especially keen on q78s

arent the q78s undersize also?

Under what size? - a Q78 is a Q78.... the size doesn't represent anything.

Q 78's stand about 35.4" tall and 10.5 or so wide.

Q78 is an archaic sizing convention. I think 1.0 sierras with the luxury pack (15" rims) had H78 tyres.

Steve.

I had 35 x 11.5 pedes, sold them and bought q78's. From what i have driven so far the q78's are a very good tyre however the simex are just a bit better. The q78's have poor grip on hardpack wet clay, a bit unpredictable, which is where i have spent the last 4 weekends driving trying to keep up with my mate on centipedes. They are excellent in the sloppy mud that allows their massive tread depth to bite all the way down.

Simex a bit better on the high speed damp 4wd roads too. Bitumen driving i think they are pretty much equal. I am not dissappointed with the q78's but when they wear out/i decide to sell them i will buy simex again or perhaps try something else. I am keen to try the swampers out when it dries out a bit, i think they will be excellent in summer

They are also more comfortable crawling through and over obstacles i found rather than powering through, this doesn't suit my driving style as much either

You get a lot of looks too because your not running the mainstream simex

Rob

I have never run simex's, but I would agree with your assessment- simexes are excellent on hard slick surfaces and at speed, but don't work as well on slow, technical obstacles.

Bet you won't want simexes again once you have done a full year on them - once you get onto dry rock and stuff the swampers seem to me to be miles ahead of the simexes.

Just knock some more air out of them - they respond to lower pressure far better than simexes and the lower you take them them better they work.

Just my 2c

Steve.

I know they aren't on your list but I have found Maxxis Creepy Crawlers to be better than all of the Simex's I have run in the past.
That includes 34x10.5 JT2's, 35" and 36" ET's with 2 or 3 centre lugs.
Never run swampers but agree that the Q78 and 36" TSL's have a very good reputation offroad.

Creepies compared to Simex are...

Better on road by miles.
Very low noise in comparison
Siped for wet weather traction onroad or rock
Better rock performance.
Very good mud performance so far.
Bias
Strong sidewall
Large side tread for getting out of ruts
etc.

I do think Swampers and Simex's will beat them at the end of the day in really thick mud/clay but for everything else they are a very good tyre and I would consider them if I was you.

Best thing you can actually do is go out driving with people with all different tyres.
See what works and what doesn't on the exact same tracks and obstacles you drive all of the time.

cheers

Z