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Raising WT Flares

Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2003 3:09 pm
by bigsteve
I know Guy (love_mud) has done this mod, I have also seen it on a few zooks around the net.

Just wondering if who has performed this mod any difficulties you had e.t.c., pics would be nice too.

Steve

Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2003 12:40 am
by Dozoor
I just drilled the spot welds out of the retianer bracket and pop rivited the thing back on higher and sort around a bit ,Dosnt seem like much difference but it all helps steve!

Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2003 12:50 am
by Dozoor
Rear,

Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2003 12:57 am
by Dozoor
You still need to mash the gaurd lip up after you lift the flares. :?
On the rear drivers side the tank filler will limit things a bit.

Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2003 9:47 am
by droopypete
Steve I did this to a long wheel base I had about 12 years ago, it is easy to raise a little bit, but to go as high as Tim Hardy's red zook you have to do a lot of work on the inner gaurd.
If you were a panel beater like Tim, you would probably heat and stretch the inner gaurd and roll a new lip where it meets the outer (this is all covered by the flare mounting plate and the flare itself), but if you where a butcher like me you could make a series of cuts with the tin snips in the inner gaurd to strech it and bend them up and pop rivet them to the outer gaurd, not very elegant but it all gets covered up by the flare.
Or, you could go the way Greg has gone, and remove the inner gaurd all together.
I don't remember any of the fuel filler issue's Dozoor mentioned, but as mine was LWB maybe that makes a diferance.

Peter.

Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2003 10:17 am
by N*A*M
haven't put original flares back on yet though

Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2003 11:41 am
by droopypete
Hey NAM, how some it is the middle of summer and you still have your roof and doors on?

thats a bit soft rooster if you ask me :D
Peter.

Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2003 11:56 am
by N*A*M
what can i say, i have delicate skin and don't like the sun. :D

Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2003 2:10 pm
by bigsteve
droopypete wrote:Steve I did this to a long wheel base I had about 12 years ago, it is easy to raise a little bit, but to go as high as Tim Hardy's red zook you have to do a lot of work on the inner gaurd.
If you were a panel beater like Tim, you would probably heat and stretch the inner gaurd and roll a new lip where it meets the outer (this is all covered by the flare mounting plate and the flare itself), but if you where a butcher like me you could make a series of cuts with the tin snips in the inner gaurd to strech it and bend them up and pop rivet them to the outer gaurd, not very elegant but it all gets covered up by the flare.
Or, you could go the way Greg has gone, and remove the inner gaurd all together.
I don't remember any of the fuel filler issue's Dozoor mentioned, but as mine was LWB maybe that makes a diferance.

Peter.


Thanks pete, I was thinking of going almost as high as Tim Hardy's but with no inner front guards and the technique Nam has used in the rear.

Cheers

Steve

Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2003 2:14 pm
by droopypete
bigsteve wrote:
droopypete wrote:Steve I did this to a long wheel base I had about 12 years ago, it is easy to raise a little bit, but to go as high as Tim Hardy's red zook you have to do a lot of work on the inner gaurd.
If you were a panel beater like Tim, you would probably heat and stretch the inner gaurd and roll a new lip where it meets the outer (this is all covered by the flare mounting plate and the flare itself), but if you where a butcher like me you could make a series of cuts with the tin snips in the inner gaurd to strech it and bend them up and pop rivet them to the outer gaurd, not very elegant but it all gets covered up by the flare.
Or, you could go the way Greg has gone, and remove the inner gaurd all together.
I don't remember any of the fuel filler issue's Dozoor mentioned, but as mine was LWB maybe that makes a diferance.

Peter.


Thanks pete, I was thinking of going almost as high as Tim Hardy's but with no inner front guards and the technique Nam has used in the rear.

Cheers

Steve


If you go no inners on the front and a bit of tubbing on the rear the only prob I can foresee is the Fuel filler as Dozoor mentioned earlier,
good luck and keep me posted.
Peter.

Re: Raising WT Flares

Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2003 8:43 am
by greg
bigsteve wrote:Just wondering if who has performed this mod any difficulties you had e.t.c., pics would be nice too.


Does this mean that someone has had a little rethink about selling off their li'l truck? :)

Re: Raising WT Flares

Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2003 8:51 am
by droopypete
greg wrote:
bigsteve wrote:Just wondering if who has performed this mod any difficulties you had e.t.c., pics would be nice too.


Does this mean that someone has had a little rethink about selling off their li'l truck? :)


I was thinking the same thing greg.
What do you have left Steve? if it is all hush, hush or secret squirel I will understand :lol:
Peter.

Re: Raising WT Flares

Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2003 9:07 am
by greg
droopypete wrote:What do you have left Steve? if it is all hush, hush or secret squirel I will understand :lol:


we may understand, but we still expect to be told ;)

Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2003 9:21 am
by N*A*M
i hope he has had a change of heart

it was a cool truck :cool:

Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2003 9:25 am
by greg
N*A*M wrote:it was a cool truck :cool:


Particularly with it's roof cocked over to one side :cool:

;)

Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2003 10:11 am
by bigsteve
I'm not going to finish the red one, with the way work is shaping up in 04 I wont have the time so i'm parting it out and with the $$ putting them towards another one, I wanna keep it looking standard-ish apart from tyres.

ATM I am going to purchase the bits I need to mod it like tyres gears springs, shocks and then pick the right rig (SWB WT Soft top) then build it in a week.

Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2003 12:00 pm
by mud4b
i thought getting rid of the inner guard was a big NO NO....

Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2003 12:08 pm
by bigsteve
mud4b wrote:i thought getting rid of the inner guard was a big NO NO....


I guess it depends as different people have different reasons for doing the chop.

If you have a shiny bling bling engine like a k6a then its stands out through the missing inner guards.

I have seen a winch challenge cruiser with the inner guards removed and replaced with rubber which gave it heaps of clearance but did not stand out much.

Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2003 12:11 pm
by greg
You can just remove a little bit of them perhaps - i.e. the area near the headlight is what will have to go (assuming you are not shackle reversaled)... that still looks pretty normal unless you are looking under the bonnet.

Surprisingly - no inner guards has not meant getting any more mud and dirt into the engine bay than normal (though it is summer at the moment so mud is kinda scarce)...

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2003 5:51 pm
by DeWsE
This is a good example. pic taken from off www.offroad.com name of the rig is samyota.
He has written a few words about the process, said it was a bit hard and he needed the help of a pro........... I say big hammer

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2003 10:07 pm
by N*A*M
that's scwafish, which steve posted originally

Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2004 9:54 pm
by DeWsE
Sorry NAM, its changed a bit sense the photo's on offroad.com. :oops:

Here's another, really using the added height to fit those tyres in.

Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2004 9:56 pm
by bigsteve
DeWsE wrote:Sorry NAM, its changed a bit sense the photo's on offroad.com. :oops:

Here's another, really using the added height to fit those tyres in.


Sweet, got any more of that one in higher res???

Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2004 10:44 pm
by DeWsE
Thats the only one I have.
try http://www.zuksofarizona.rockcrawler.com/custom.html
This pic was taken from the members section