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What are the GU monster diffs called ?

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What are the GU monster diffs called ?

Post by Ezrail »

HI Guys,

was after some specs on the Monster GU diffs.

Any Idea how much they are worth


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Post by Bad JuJu »

H260, only in the rear.
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Post by turps »

Alex there only in the rear. Mainly fitted to GU as far as coil mounts go. They where also in leaf GQs.
As far as cost. I would think they would be cheaper than a H233. As most people dont need a diff that size.
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Post by Swerve »

turps wrote:Alex there only in the rear. Mainly fitted to GU as far as coil mounts go. They where also in leaf GQs.
As far as cost. I would think they would be cheaper than a H233. As most people dont need a diff that size.
Also in the rear of the G60 patrol, with drums.

About a $100 for a G60 rear diff
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Post by mud4b »

theres one from a gu in the for sale section now at $600...


h260 is the diff.
also available in the gu ute with leaf rear.
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Post by bushy555 »

errr. Kinda wrong. There are 3 GU diffs....

"Cabstar" is the monster. Is in the rear of leaf sprung GU utes.
Possible the same size as the G60. A two tonne rated diff. Fully floated diff.

H260 is its smaller brother, as in rear 3 litre GU's wagons.

H233 is the smallest, as in rear coil sprung GU ute.


"Cabstar" size-wise is as bigger again when ya compare the size of the H260 to that of the H233.
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Post by WICKED »

bushy555 wrote: "Cabstar" is the monster. Is in the rear of leaf sprung GU utes.
Possible the same size as the G60. A two tonne rated diff. Fully floated diff.

H260 is its smaller brother, as in rear 3 litre GU's wagons.

"Cabstar" size-wise is as bigger again when ya compare the size of the H260 to that of the H233.
I find this hard to beleive. As all leaf srpung GQ/GU's i have seen have a H260 rear. Never heard or seen a Cabstar.

H260 is about 10 3/4 Inch C/w&P (from memory)
What is the Cabstar?

Pics?

And yes i now what a H233 and a H260 is as i have both.
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Post by Potter »

here is a cab star sorry it isnt a pic of the diff

http://www.nissan.co.uk/home/vehicles/l ... ?ln=/en_GB
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Post by mud4b »

Potter wrote:here is a cab star sorry it isnt a pic of the diff

http://www.nissan.co.uk/home/vehicles/l ... ?ln=/en_GB


its a truck dude..... and from the uk not aus... im sure the rear diff in the gu leaf rear is a h260 and not the diff out of a truck...

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Post by bushy555 »

I'm quite happy to admit that I am wrong if someone says that it aint a cabstar. But just from looking at a leaf sprung GU rear diff, they are quite larger than that of the housing that is in a 3 litre GU wagon.

Either than or I really am quite blind from looking into too many lasers...
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Post by mickyd555 »

bushy555 wrote:I'm quite happy to admit that I am wrong if someone says that it aint a cabstar. But just from looking at a leaf sprung GU rear diff, they are quite larger than that of the housing that is in a 3 litre GU wagon.

Either than or I really am quite blind from looking into too many lasers...
i had a leaf GU and a coil GU here and the centres are identical. the housing is slightly different (keep in mind its full floating) but the centre is not.
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Post by RMP&O »

mud4b wrote:
Potter wrote:here is a cab star sorry it isnt a pic of the diff

http://www.nissan.co.uk/home/vehicles/l ... ?ln=/en_GB


its a truck dude..... and from the uk not aus... im sure the rear diff in the gu leaf rear is a h260 and not the diff out of a truck...

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Actually many of the Nissan UD trucks run an H260 rear diff, busses included. They share many things in common with the Patrol all the way back to the 1950's. In early models such as the Nissan Carrier they shared the same motor, transfer case and rear HD diff. Gear ratios were the same in the diffs back then too. Yet the Carrier had a 4spd with a 6.75:1 1st gear unlike the G60 which runs a 3spd. The Nissan Homer from the 1960's & 1970's ran a H260 rear diff. Over the years they have continued to share a few things here and there but have also developed Patrol type power train/running gear suited to the UD trucks. For example in the 1980's the Cabstar ran a ED33 diesel which is basically the same as a SD33. The 5spd in the mid 80's Cabstar is identical to the MK 5spd, I know I have one. There does exist a paticular Cabstar 5spd which will bolt or adapt very easily to a Patrol and has a very low 1st, something like 7:1. Believe it or not there even has been a FF H233 since about 1983/84. :P

Now why would this be? Well for about 40yrs the Patrol was manufactured in the same place as the UD trucks. Which in turn is one reason the Patrol is so overbuilt, ie tranny, engines and diffs designed to be used in big 2-10tonn trucks. I believe it was the GU series in the late 1990's that ended production of the Patrol in the UD truck factory.

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Post by badger »

yes rmp&o is correct.
in a way bushy555 is also correct as the diff in a gq or gu leaf sprung ute is the same diff that was in early cabsters, centre output different to the patrols offset out put of the time. the cabstar i beleive also ran the different spline count like a gq/gu diff

but is it still a h260 just a different varient
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Post by BENNNO »

some info i found on internet...shows name and amount of splines.not sure if it will help.
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Nissan H233 B - 31 spline

Nissan Patrol H233 - 33 spline

Nissan H233B (Drum Brake) - 33 spline

Nissan Patrol GZ/MQ H260 (Drum Brake) - Rear 37 spline

Nissan R200 1.20" axle shaft diameter - 29 spline

Nissan C200 - 31 spline
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Post by Bad JuJu »

Pretty sure there is 2 versions of the H260.
A semi floating one and a full floating one.
Also pretty sure the full floater was ONLY on Leafy Cabs on late GQ and series I and II GUs.
All the GU wagons (some odd 3.0 and the 4.8) got was the semi floating
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Post by Ezrail »

Hi Guys,

The one i have seen is coil, but much bigger than a normal GQ/Gu diff ?

what is it GU/ Coil much bigger ?
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Post by WICKED »

Ezrail wrote:Hi Guys,

The one i have seen is coil, but much bigger than a normal GQ/Gu diff ?

what is it GU/ Coil much bigger ?
Pics would solve this quick smart matey...

Bad JuJu yes there is 2 different version's, semi and full float but both have the same C/w & P. 10 3/4 inch
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