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tray mount radiator,how legal, tips
Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 9:15 pm
by mudbasher2
how legal is a tray mounted radiator in vic and does any body have any tips on how to do it? My 4x4 has already been engineered and is not a daily driver
Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 6:19 pm
by pigletracing
dont know about the legalities but,i used a ford AU radiator &
its factory thermofan/shroud setup..bent up elbows,& baught
extra heavy-dute radiator hose by the meter,just chech your
pressure,because you might even get away without using
an additional in line water pump,I didnt need one
(not yet anyway)theres pics of it in THE DIRTCOMP mag
on piglet
Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 6:24 pm
by dogbreath_48
Is there any problem (other than water pressure) with mounting it up so high or on an angle?
-Stu
Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 7:54 pm
by pigletracing
sofar all is good,have done a lot of long distance hwy work
in it,longdistance high speed sand(at OBC) & slow tight winch
challenge stages,probably drive it out to Tamworth,for rnd3
extreme winch in oct,im running V6 comy,37"tyres on a
feroza ute,& the radiator seems good,sits around norm temp
Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 8:10 pm
by MissDrew
I just had a length of exhaust tube bent to run most of the way from the front to the rear. Then just got some hoses and cut them to suit regarding bends etc. No extra pump needed.
Only draw back with the way mine is mounted is 100% of cooling is done via the fans, it gets NO air flow even at 110km/hr on the highway. I am going to move mine when I get around to it and mount it under my spare wheel rather then hard up behind the cab.
Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 10:51 pm
by Cheezy4x4
Drop buy, I have a couple we are building ATM with that setup.
Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 1:51 pm
by j-top paj
i cant see why it would be illegal
Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 2:06 pm
by sierrajim
Guts wrote:I just had a length of exhaust tube bent to run most of the way from the front to the rear. Then just got some hoses and cut them to suit regarding bends etc. No extra pump needed..
I did the same on my Hilux with a 2poofty3.
Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 2:46 pm
by GQ Bear
Guts wrote:
Only draw back with the way mine is mounted is 100% of cooling is done via the fans, it gets NO air flow even at 110km/hr on the highway. I am going to move mine when I get around to it and mount it under my spare wheel rather then hard up behind the cab.
Just a thought. Would a wide-mouthed snorkel type setup help to direct air through your radiator?
Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 6:08 pm
by MissDrew
GQ Bear wrote:Guts wrote:
Only draw back with the way mine is mounted is 100% of cooling is done via the fans, it gets NO air flow even at 110km/hr on the highway. I am going to move mine when I get around to it and mount it under my spare wheel rather then hard up behind the cab.
Just a thought. Would a wide-mouthed snorkel type setup help to direct air through your radiator?
Yeah it would, man how cool would it look, might put 2 of them on my roll bar and then get a pair of stacks to compliement them
Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 7:11 pm
by PGS 4WD
I'm mounting mine with the top of the radiator away from the cab and the bottom closer and putting a scoop on rear roof radius to drag air down into the radiator.
Joel
Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 7:23 pm
by MissDrew
PGS 4WD wrote:I'm mounting mine with the top of the radiator away from the cab and the bottom closer and putting a scoop on rear roof radius to drag air down into the radiator.
Joel
Not needed, just mount it with top of radiator laying forward and the air will come UP threw it without doing anything else. The way your talking about will have 2 different air flows fighting with each other.
Mine only gets no air flow because it is basicly hard up beind the cab (about 100mm off it)
Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 7:42 pm
by chunderlicious
guts do you have any troubles with over heating though?
Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 7:48 pm
by MissDrew
chunderlicious wrote:guts do you have any troubles with over heating though?
NOPE, none at all, doesn't matter how hard or for how long it cops it and never gets hot, even on 40deg days
.
ATM only 1 of the fans is working and it still doesn't get hot, would if it was a 40deg day.
The ONLY dissadvantage of all its cooling being done via the fans is power usage and this is the main reason I am going to move it. Well that and it will look heeps better being hidden with the spare wheel mounted over the top of it. IMHO it looks crap where it is atm.
Best thing was even after the bog hole in the vid it still didn't over heat as the radiator stayed 100% clean and out of the crap
If you listen you'll here me say 80. Oh and the smoke is from a cooked power steering
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQbe4gX6H6Y
Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 9:37 pm
by BOGAN V8
Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 10:02 pm
by mugginsmoo
it depends on your engineer.
mine is OK with moving the radiator to behind the cab, but i have to do cooling tests to satisfy him that the car will remain at the correct temp when driving on the highway.
i've gone for a late model falcon radiator with a factory twin thermo, as well as an auxillary water pump.
i'm only trying to cool a 1.6L though.
mitch
Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 11:10 am
by GQ Bear
Guts wrote:GQ Bear wrote:Guts wrote:
Only draw back with the way mine is mounted is 100% of cooling is done via the fans, it gets NO air flow even at 110km/hr on the highway. I am going to move mine when I get around to it and mount it under my spare wheel rather then hard up behind the cab.
Just a thought. Would a wide-mouthed snorkel type setup help to direct air through your radiator?
Yeah it would, man how cool would it look, might put 2 of them on my roll bar and then get a pair of stacks to compliement them
And a few spare aeriels and marker lights like this bloke (not one wire running to 6 aeriels)
Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 2:46 pm
by chunderlicious
on the legal side, in queensland it is perfectly legal, aslong as there is no way of boiling water entering cab. thats from a mad plater and an engineer.
Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 3:35 pm
by 85lux
my VASS engineer is happy with a rear radiator provided i can guard it to protect bystanders/idiots from injuring themselves on fans etc or getting burned by touching the rad. i also have to protect them from the event of the rad cap releasing, spewing superheated coolant on their pretty little faces.
Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 4:06 pm
by batcho101
heres how mine is goin to be mounted behind the cab its a late model falcon radiator and i have standard thermos to go with it aswell i still need to do the piping but hopefully it shoudl be fine
Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 5:47 pm
by pigletracing
looks like you have enough space to lie it down flat
with fans above,,put an access floor out of mesh above it
then you have an area for recovery boxes or storage
I only wish ihad that much space to play with
Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 9:59 pm
by ads80
thats looks like its going to heat up your lpg tank nicely, the fans pump out a massive amount of heat, be carefull
Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 6:09 pm
by MissDrew
Yep, Rob (bourbon) used to have the problem of boiling this fuel in his buggy as the fans used to blow straight on to the tank.
Mine atm blows straight on to my batteries which I don't think would be the best for them either, another reason why I am going to move the rad.