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i am looking at putting a factory turbo motor (1hdft/1hdfte) into a 105x hzj

what would be the best option
buy a complete wreck factory 100x 1hdfte
buy a hdj79x
or get hold of a 1hdft motor and box package
i am after the easist swap

any body done this conversion?? if so any tricks to look out for

tobie wrote:i am looking at putting a factory turbo motor (1hdft/1hdfte) into a 105x hzj

what would be the best option
buy a complete wreck factory 100x 1hdfte
buy a hdj79x
or get hold of a 1hdft motor and box package
i am after the easist swap

any body done this conversion?? if so any tricks to look out for

will be keeping an eye on this thread I want to do the same

jimbo

jimbo jones wrote:

tobie wrote:i am looking at putting a factory turbo motor (1hdft/1hdfte) into a 105x hzj

what would be the best option
buy a complete wreck factory 100x 1hdfte
buy a hdj79x
or get hold of a 1hdft motor and box package
i am after the easist swap

any body done this conversion?? if so any tricks to look out for

will be keeping an eye on this thread I want to do the same

jimbo

Jason at Total Care 4wd (029838 9779) in Seven Hills in Sydney has apparently done a few of these and is the guy to speak to.

tobie wrote:i am looking at putting a factory turbo motor (1hdft/1hdfte) into a 105x hzj

what would be the best option
buy a complete wreck factory 100x 1hdfte
buy a hdj79x
or get hold of a 1hdft motor and box package
i am after the easist swap

any body done this conversion?? if so any tricks to look out for

Buy a 100 series coul be nice ( if you can afford that ) coz you get the engine ( and auto tranny ? ) and pretty nice compfort stuff from the 100 series .. to run in your 105 series ..

But .. you also have a tons of thinks that you never gonna use .. easy to sell ?

engine and box package sound to be the more reasonable deal . ..

tobie wrote:i am looking at putting a factory turbo motor (1hdft/1hdfte) into a 105x hzj

what would be the best option
buy a complete wreck factory 100x 1hdfte
buy a hdj79x
or get hold of a 1hdft motor and box package
i am after the easist swap

any body done this conversion?? if so any tricks to look out for

This was discussed a while ago, and the best and cheapester option was to do a SAS on a 100 series, as the 100 series motors and very dicky to get working easily with the ECU, and the amount of bits and pieces you need from the donor 100. 79/78 motor is a little less troublesome, but when you can get an SAS engineered for around $6k which was cheaper than figures being quoted.

Probably the best man to speak to is HDJ105 (Greg), he put an 1HDFT out of an 80 series into his 105, or speak to 80UTE (Wally).

There is a bloke doing the same conversion on overlander forum

I hear its preety straight forward with the hdfte into a hzj105....if you use a 79 series motor (with no imobiliser) total care have done a few

+dj_hansen+ wrote:

tobie wrote:i am looking at putting a factory turbo motor (1hdft/1hdfte) into a 105x hzj

what would be the best option
buy a complete wreck factory 100x 1hdfte
buy a hdj79x
or get hold of a 1hdft motor and box package
i am after the easist swap

any body done this conversion?? if so any tricks to look out for

This was discussed a while ago, and the best and cheapester option was to do a SAS on a 100 series, as the 100 series motors and very dicky to get working easily with the ECU, and the amount of bits and pieces you need from the donor 100. 79/78 motor is a little less troublesome, but when you can get an SAS engineered for around $6k which was cheaper than figures being quoted.

Probably the best man to speak to is HDJ105 (Greg), he put an 1HDFT out of an 80 series into his 105, or speak to 80UTE (Wally).

That would definately be the easiest option...an 80 front diff and away you go...ratios are sweet too. Purchase price is going to kill the budget...

dow50r wrote:

+dj_hansen+ wrote:

tobie wrote:i am looking at putting a factory turbo motor (1hdft/1hdfte) into a 105x hzj

what would be the best option
buy a complete wreck factory 100x 1hdfte
buy a hdj79x
or get hold of a 1hdft motor and box package
i am after the easist swap

any body done this conversion?? if so any tricks to look out for

This was discussed a while ago, and the best and cheapester option was to do a SAS on a 100 series, as the 100 series motors and very dicky to get working easily with the ECU, and the amount of bits and pieces you need from the donor 100. 79/78 motor is a little less troublesome, but when you can get an SAS engineered for around $6k which was cheaper than figures being quoted.

Probably the best man to speak to is HDJ105 (Greg), he put an 1HDFT out of an 80 series into his 105, or speak to 80UTE (Wally).

That would definately be the easiest option...an 80 front diff and away you go...ratios are sweet too. Purchase price is going to kill the budget...

Problem with an 80 diff is different hubs.... 100 series diffs arent that expensive, both surfection and the big green meany had a pair with F&R airlockers for sale for ages at sub 3k, and they sat there for ages!

The purchase price would kill you, agreed, but you still would end up on top i reckon after you include labour charges, esp when you start talking getting the motor from the wreckers - probably 6k, but you dont know much about its life, you can rebuild a front diff & fit an air locker for $1500, so you'd have a front diff fully rebuilt for less than the engine & g/box purchase price, and then the rest is really just fabrication.

If your doing the engine swap, you have to include not only the fabrication, but auto elec, air con, fuel tank issues etc etc. I cant say there has ever been an engine transplant that has come in under budget and been easier than first thought.

I dont know why the engine swap would be that hard apart from the electrics. They are nearly the same engine with different internals.

I have heard several people say do a live axle conversion instead, but I have never seen or heard of one completed. I have heard of plenty of TD swaps.

My HZJ105 is a GXL with all the usual '98 fruit. An '07 Sahara or VX would be nicer, but it aint a poverty pack either.

Paul