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K&N

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 6:25 pm
by giacomo.m
Hi all.
someone know exact K&N airfilter part number for 1HZ in HZJ105 ?
it would have to replace the genuine Toyota :17801-67060
thank you.

Giacomo

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 7:50 pm
by giacomo.m
G'day all,
strange.41 readers and no answer.
do not exist? or problems of efficiency on this engine ?
thank you.

Giacomo

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 9:37 pm
by Sic Lux
Had a look on a repco program with all the 4wd part numbers listed and it didn't turn up a answer so maybe get in contact with K&N directly :idea:

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 9:50 pm
by 302 cruiser
i think it is e-2444 have a look on ebay type in k&n land cruiser it will come up

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 2:53 am
by giacomo.m
thank you for your reply.
also I task that the E2444 is that right one. I have already acquired the E2443 but it does not go well, because it has two open sides. while the E2444 has the side low closed on the box airfilter, as it genuine part.

Giacomo

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 10:56 am
by revin
Mate I wouldnt run a K&N filter in a car.

I used to run K&N`s in my motorbikes and got for to much dust into the airbox.I put standard cleaner back on and no more dust.

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 1:27 pm
by dumbdunce
stick with the factory cleanable paper element. K&N is junk.

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 1:46 pm
by droopypete
Use the factory paper element in conjunction with one of these,

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/k-N-filters-deca ... dZViewItem

Your car will perform heaps better.

Peter.

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 10:19 am
by guy71
dumbdunce wrote:stick with the factory cleanable paper element. K&N is junk.
What are your experiences with K & N to make you say they are junk.

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 6:10 pm
by brooksy
droopypete wrote:Use the factory paper element in conjunction with one of these,

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/k-N-filters-deca ... dZViewItem

Your car will perform heaps better.

Peter.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:



brooksy

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 11:32 am
by Gwagensteve
guy71 wrote:
dumbdunce wrote:stick with the factory cleanable paper element. K&N is junk.
What are your experiences with K & N to make you say they are junk.
I think the purpose of an air FILTER is to prevent dust entering the engine.

Unfortunately, K&N's do not. Visible dust in the inlet tract of a car running a well serviced K&N is unacceptable. That is my experience.

Steve.

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 6:38 pm
by hulsty
Gwagensteve wrote:
guy71 wrote:
dumbdunce wrote:stick with the factory cleanable paper element. K&N is junk.
What are your experiences with K & N to make you say they are junk.
I think the purpose of an air FILTER is to prevent dust entering the engine.

Unfortunately, K&N's do not. Visible dust in the inlet tract of a car running a well serviced K&N is unacceptable. That is my experience.

Steve.
really? personally i've not had a problem with the filters, had one in my old road car for about 60,000 no troubles, got one in my cruiser now and so far so good. THe filter wasn't over serviced was it? I noticed in the literature it says the a small amount of stuff in the filter improves filtration ? Were your ones properly oiled? this makes a difference. Guess i'll have to keep an eye on my inlet tract for any particles and crap

cheers

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 9:13 pm
by NiftyNev
No problems with my K&N. Lots of dirt and dust pre filter but none post filter. Maybe those with problems should check sealing at filter ends before they blame the filter for letting the dust through.

Nev

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 9:37 pm
by Gwagensteve
All the literature backs up my anecdotal findings. K&N's, under test, permit far larger particles into the engine than a stock paper filter. In the worst cases, you can see them, (like in the car I was working on, and no, there were no leaks and no, it wasn't an incorrect filter, it was infact, much larger than necessary for the job, generally a good thing)

Yes, filters do filter better when dirty when clean. This is fact. however, if a filter has to be dirty in order to filter adequately, then it's not up to the job. Put a clean K&N up to the light - you can see light though it.

There's no magic in their operation - for a K&N to flow more air than a paper filter, it can't filter as well as a paper filter.

This topic has been covered heaps of times in general tech. MAYBE run one in a road car.... maybe. In a car that sees dirt roads and australian dust? no way. They are just inadequate.

If you want the filtration of a paper filter and more flow than you have now, fit a bigger paper filter . Simple. (assuming it is the filter element that is the problem not the ducting)

Do a search on K&N in general tech. There is some excellent science posted by isuzurover on K&N performance.

Steve.

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 11:29 pm
by dumbdunce
if these threads don't convince you, nothing will. I used to be a fan of foam filters, thinking they had better breathability and were cheaper TCO, however independent test resuts certainly do not support this.

http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/phpBB2/vi ... efficiency

http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/phpBB2/vi ... efficiency

http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/phpBB2/vi ... efficiency

http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/phpBB2/vi ... efficiency

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 10:11 am
by guy71
Thanks for the tip dumbdunce. I will have to have a look in my inlets for any dust and probably blow the old paper element out and re-install it. Junk indeed.