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need help

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2003 9:42 am
by GRUB
Just bought a 93 GQ patrol with a 3.0 litre petrol its traveled 143000 klms

Just drove from brisbane to newcastle and averaged around 6klms to a litre is this standard in this model patrol if so what can I do to it to get a better fuel economy.

any help would be great


Thanks Neil

Re: need help

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2003 9:50 am
by bogged
GRUB wrote:Just bought a 93 GQ patrol with a 3.0 litre petrol its traveled 143000 klms

Just drove from brisbane to newcastle and averaged around 6klms to a litre is this standard in this model patrol if so what can I do to it to get a better fuel economy.

any help would be great

Thanks Neil


They are famous for being thirsty as hell... 20l/100 is about normal for them.

Extractors, bigger zaust, elect ig, and a rotorbutton mod that should be in the history, Kyle was talking about he did with his, was done by Sandy at Aus 4wd.

Engine swaps are good ideas if your rich

Re: need help

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2003 10:13 am
by getdirty
bogged wrote:
GRUB wrote:Just bought a 93 GQ patrol with a 3.0 litre petrol its traveled 143000 klms

Just drove from brisbane to newcastle and averaged around 6klms to a litre is this standard in this model patrol if so what can I do to it to get a better fuel economy.

any help would be great

Thanks Neil


They are famous for being thirsty as hell... 20l/100 is about normal for them.

Extractors, bigger zaust, elect ig, and a rotorbutton mod that should be in the history, Kyle was talking about he did with his, was done by Sandy at Aus 4wd.

Engine swaps are good ideas if your rich


That I did but this is a 3ltr........ not a 4.2.....

For a 3ltr, you will get better driveability and mildly better economy by putting an injected one in. Just get a whole new motor, $400ish with everything from a skyline of VL Commodore. Bolt the motor in, screw the computer on, a couple of relays and a fuel pump and you're away!

Re: need help

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2003 10:14 am
by getdirty
bogged wrote:Engine swaps are good ideas if your rich


Cos you certainly won't be rich once you begin an engine swap!!!! :cry:

Re: need help

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2003 11:36 am
by V8Patrol
getdirty wrote:
bogged wrote:Engine swaps are good ideas if your rich


Cos you certainly won't be rich once you begin an engine swap!!!! :cry:


Ya not wrong there !!!! :grab:

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2003 4:24 pm
by GRUB
I was told I could bolt on a EFI of a VL or a Skyline with out to much troble is this a good idea or just get a complete motor

Thanks heaps for the info :)

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2003 5:01 pm
by bogged
GRUB wrote:I was told I could bolt on a EFI of a VL or a Skyline with out to much troble is this a good idea or just get a complete motor

Thanks heaps for the info :)


drop in a full NISMO donk, turbo and all, out of VL! would be cheapest conversion.

If you arent rich, then just do the smaller things. But will cost more than the $400 Kyle was mentioning.

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2003 7:40 pm
by RUFF
GRUB wrote:I was told I could bolt on a EFI of a VL or a Skyline with out to much troble is this a good idea or just get a complete motor

Thanks heaps for the info :)


Try and find someone that has actually done this conversion on their own vehicle and see if their fuel economy improved. I would be surprised if it improved at all. I think it would need computer mods before it got any better.

Other than that if it is an improvement then you would be better off buying acomplete damaged VL then you get everything you need. These are around for $500 on average. If you are going to go this way buy a VL not a skyline as the VL has an external fuel pump you can re-use and you will sell the remaining parts easier. A wrecker will charge you more than this just for the parts to convert yours.

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2003 10:12 pm
by Shorty40
What about LPG :?:

Initial outlay is large, but if you plan on keeping the rig for a while you will see some savings :cool:

Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2004 8:09 am
by GRUB
thought about goin gas but wasnt sure if it would improve that much

Imight as well leave it as it is and just add a snorkel and extractors and see how it goes

Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2004 10:53 am
by bogged
Shorty40 wrote:What about LPG :?:

Initial outlay is large, but if you plan on keeping the rig for a while you will see some savings :cool:


Working on $3000 to get fitted, the price of gas not being the huge saving it used to be, it would take you several years to start seeing savings wouldnt it?

Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2004 10:56 am
by Shorty40
bogged wrote:
Shorty40 wrote:What about LPG :?:

Initial outlay is large, but if you plan on keeping the rig for a while you will see some savings :cool:


Working on $3000 to get fitted, the price of gas not being the huge saving it used to be, it would take you several years to start seeing savings wouldnt it?


;)

Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2004 11:03 am
by bogged
Shorty40 wrote:
bogged wrote:
Shorty40 wrote:What about LPG :?:

Initial outlay is large, but if you plan on keeping the rig for a while you will see some savings :cool:


Working on $3000 to get fitted, the price of gas not being the huge saving it used to be, it would take you several years to start seeing savings wouldnt it?


;)


Would be long long while.. like 7-8 years??? or More?

Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2004 11:14 pm
by Shark
Had my SWB Maverick for almost a month now, in which i get the following economy on a standard 4.2ltr petrol with extractors and a really crappy exhaust system

Highway 6km/ltr
City 5km/ltr
Offroad 4km/ltr

I was informed of the not so good fuel economy but am impressed with their power on road and off so i am happy. Not going to bother with LPG would take way too long to reap the benifets and besides i would rather invest that money into some other modifications :D


MArc

Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2004 8:52 am
by GRUB
Dont get me wrong Im very happy with the patrol was a bit concerned about how much fuel it used thought there may have been a problem as I have bought a couple of lemons in the past :)

Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2004 9:11 am
by V8Patrol
bogged wrote:
Shorty40 wrote:
bogged wrote:
Shorty40 wrote:What about LPG :?:

Initial outlay is large, but if you plan on keeping the rig for a while you will see some savings :cool:


Working on $3000 to get fitted, the price of gas not being the huge saving it used to be, it would take you several years to start seeing savings wouldnt it?


;)


Would be long long while.. like 7-8 years??? or More?



with the new taxes comming I'd allow a few more yares than that ...

see following articles

http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/ ... m=storyrhs

http://heraldsun.news.com.au/common/sto ... 62,00.html


likelyhood is that it will endup being slightly more than 3/4 the price of petrol ..... our wonderfull Govts working for our benifits again !