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XF Falcon tech.. accell cable stuck?

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 7:34 pm
by RockyF75
Got in the foulcan to drive home today and it was absolutely sluggish. Wasn't reving out before it changed gears, or getting up the revs as quick as usuall. Engines running fine, transmission seems to change fine. Just feels as though I can't push the accelerator down as far as I should, yet it's hitting the floor :? (ie, I can 'floor' it, but it just accelerates at a smooth cruisy pace).

Is there' a clip or something that can break, and give the cable or pedal too much slack or something? But at the same time, there's no slack really. Cause the revs kik in as soon as you push the pedal, it just doesn't go far enough :?:

CARBY model BTW.

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 7:39 pm
by GT60
Is the outer part of the cable ok? They get brittle and the outer casing falls apart...

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 7:42 pm
by RockyF75
not sure what u mean?

I looked at the carby end, seems ok, its attached :? No apparent cracks or anything in the covering. Pedal end looks ok too. But I only got the car recently and didn't take notice of either of these things so don't know how their supposed to look.

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 7:56 pm
by GT60
ok have a look at the length of the cable, the outer part is plastic if it breaks at some point the gap that is left from the broken bit pulls together making the cable shorter...

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 9:25 pm
by tj81
The other common issue with these things is that the automatic choke can break.

The locating lug can break off and cause the choke to stay on or off, depending where the lug breaks off.

Doesnt sound like this though.

m

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 10:12 pm
by sloshy
thats a falcon for ya :D

Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 1:50 pm
by bad_religion_au
is it on gas? if so is the converter freezing up, and do you have gas in it?

Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 2:07 pm
by me3@neuralfibre.com
Mine did similar. The outside sheath got too hot and softened. They shorten and this makes it sticky and lets you only have 20% of throttle avaialalbe. Repco sells the cable (on a Sunday in Toowoomba luckily).

Paul

Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 2:32 pm
by jtraf
sounds like the kickdown cable to the tranny has broken.

From a stop does it change up through th gears very quickly?
If you drive it manually selecting the gears is it ok?

If is it the kickdown cable needs to be replaced.........it is a second cable that hangs down the side of the carby going to the auto.....

to replace this you need to pull the transmittion pan off......

Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 5:59 pm
by RockyF75
bad_religion_au wrote:is it on gas? if so is the converter freezing up, and do you have gas in it?
nah petty
jtraf wrote:sounds like the kickdown cable to the tranny has broken.

From a stop does it change up through th gears very quickly?
If you drive it manually selecting the gears is it ok?

If is it the kickdown cable needs to be replaced.........it is a second cable that hangs down the side of the carby going to the auto.....

to replace this you need to pull the transmittion pan off......
Went for a drive to check this and for the first 200m or so it was fine. Even had to ease off on the corner cause it was starting to break traction. Then, tried giving it a boot full down the road at 50ish... and nothing, accelerating at a calm sunday afternoon pace. And then the same from then on, even using gears manually.
me3@neuralfibre.com wrote:Mine did similar. The outside sheath got too hot and softened. They shorten and this makes it sticky and lets you only have 20% of throttle avaialalbe. Repco sells the cable (on a Sunday in Toowoomba luckily).

Paul
I'm starting to think this is the case. Hard to change the cable? I'm new to petrol's, sorta. Had a look and the cable joins under neath the air filter assembly that seems to be attached to the carby, do I have to remove any of it to get at the cable?
sloshy wrote:thats a falcon for ya :D
you bet :bad-words: :D

Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 8:21 pm
by me3@neuralfibre.com
Drop off the air filter - 5 bolts. Dont drop any down the carby.

Get someone inside to work throttle with engine off. Butterfly should actuate fully. They are full mechnical, no vacuum secondary. If it doesn't open em both wide up - cable problem. Could also be the adjuster or bracket come loose.

Paul

Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 11:55 pm
by cooter
me3@neuralfibre.com wrote:Drop off the air filter - 5 bolts. Dont drop any down the carby.

Get someone inside to work throttle with engine off. Butterfly should actuate fully. They are full mechnical, no vacuum secondary. If it doesn't open em both wide up - cable problem. Could also be the adjuster or bracket come loose.

Paul
also check that the accel pump is squirting fuel in when ya put your foot down

also if you rev it is it smooth or does it splutter first?

Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 7:41 pm
by RockyF75
:rofl:

Didn't need a new cable after all :D

Dropped the filter assembly off, and the bracket that holds the cable on at the carby end was loose, so when you put your foot down, it would move, and a nut on the swing arm thingy would come down and hit it, stopping it from opening more than about 30-40%. Stupid thing. Easy fix tho. At least now I can do powerslides :armsup: