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Fitting G-Wagon axles and diffs
Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2004 11:55 pm
by Nor
Hi Mates!
HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL!
I have found a pair of Mercedes G-Wagon differentials, complete, disk-to-disk full with axles and all.
Would they fit under a GQ?
Hoe much work do I have to put in to get them running well???
Thanks!
Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2004 9:06 pm
by Gabriel
Hi,
Happy new year to you all!!
Ref the G-axles, the main problem is that they are not the same width as the GR ones. The G axles are about 10 cm shorter...so in my opinion is not a good move...
Second, if you don't have the locking system to mount it, then it really isn't a good idea...beside the fact that the G 'axles broke easier then the GR..
Good luck, Gabriel
Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2004 11:03 pm
by Nor
Hi Gabriel!
Thanks for the tips man!
I already checked them out a bit, and people who have used them have broken them with 35" tires, and since I am moving to 37", I don't think they'll last 2 days with me
I am looking into 4.6 or 4.88 diffs (Patrol diffs), since they have proven to be rock solid.
Thanks again!
Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2004 11:24 pm
by Hoonz
don't u have patrol diffs under ur patrol?
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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2004 1:02 am
by Nor
I didn't know there were such "SMART" people out there!
What do you think Mr.Einstein?????
I have 3.9 stock diffs, and am running 35" tires on em, need to upgrade, since I am also moving on to 37".
Did u get the point now???
Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2004 1:27 am
by Gabriel
Hi,
Ref the 4.6 crown & pinions, check the forum on Nissan, the subj is (I think..) "4.6 in GQ" or something like...
There you can find a cheap way to have the 4.6 from a MQ...
Regards, Gabriel
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2004 7:55 am
by bj on roids
They come with lockers but I would suspect they are narrow and weak. Over here, there was 100 originally brought in, so parts chasing would be a nightmare.
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2004 9:48 am
by grimbo
the GWagon axles are fine in regards to holding up to the abuse of 36" tyres. A guy in our club has been running Q78s on his Gwagon for about 3 years and has never had any problems. But the whole cable locking mechanism could be a problem as to the width issue
Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2004 8:28 am
by ljxtreem
G wagon diffs, not a good idea, unless u want to turn your car inside out
The front diff is a high pinion, and out of the g wagon transmishon the front drive shaft turns the oposite way to a patrol, so when in 4x4, the back wheels want to go forwards and the front wheels will be going backwards, CRUNCH BANG BREAKY BREAKY!!!! he he!
MOCK OUT
Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2004 8:52 am
by Rainbow Warrior
ljxtreem wrote:G wagon diffs, not a good idea, unless u want to turn your car inside out
The front diff is a high pinion, and out of the g wagon transmishon the front drive shaft turns the oposite way to a patrol, so when in 4x4, the back wheels want to go forwards and the front wheels will be going backwards, CRUNCH BANG BREAKY BREAKY!!!! he he!
MOCK OUT
You'd be spewin chips when you worked it out after making them fit :-)
Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2004 7:27 am
by Wendle
ljxtreem wrote:G wagon diffs, not a good idea, unless u want to turn your car inside out
The front diff is a high pinion, and out of the g wagon transmishon the front drive shaft turns the oposite way to a patrol, so when in 4x4, the back wheels want to go forwards and the front wheels will be going backwards, CRUNCH BANG BREAKY BREAKY!!!! he he!
MOCK OUT
Oh dear.
you might want to research this and edit your post before the flaming gets started.
Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2004 5:13 pm
by DiscoDino
Nor,
Let's simply exchange your GQ axles for my LR ones...I am SURE they'll last you the installation AT LEAST!
Dude...instead of putting the money into all that...get a couple of ARBs and you'll be good to go.
Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 7:29 am
by bj on roids
Wendle wrote:ljxtreem wrote:G wagon diffs, not a good idea, unless u want to turn your car inside out
The front diff is a high pinion, and out of the g wagon transmishon the front drive shaft turns the oposite way to a patrol, so when in 4x4, the back wheels want to go forwards and the front wheels will be going backwards, CRUNCH BANG BREAKY BREAKY!!!! he he!
MOCK OUT
Oh dear.
you might want to research this and edit your post before the flaming gets started.
the front diff is an upside down standard diff. It genuinely goes backwards!!
Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 9:02 am
by Wendle
bj on roids wrote:Wendle wrote:ljxtreem wrote:G wagon diffs, not a good idea, unless u want to turn your car inside out
The front diff is a high pinion, and out of the g wagon transmishon the front drive shaft turns the oposite way to a patrol, so when in 4x4, the back wheels want to go forwards and the front wheels will be going backwards, CRUNCH BANG BREAKY BREAKY!!!! he he!
MOCK OUT
Oh dear.
you might want to research this and edit your post before the flaming gets started.
the front diff is an upside down standard diff. It genuinely goes backwards!!
I thought he was misunderstanding the Nissan "reverse cut" front, but I complately underestimated the insanity of the germans! what a complete mind-f_ck
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Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 2:49 pm
by bj on roids
Wendle wrote:bj on roids wrote:Wendle wrote:ljxtreem wrote:G wagon diffs, not a good idea, unless u want to turn your car inside out
The front diff is a high pinion, and out of the g wagon transmishon the front drive shaft turns the oposite way to a patrol, so when in 4x4, the back wheels want to go forwards and the front wheels will be going backwards, CRUNCH BANG BREAKY BREAKY!!!! he he!
MOCK OUT
Oh dear.
you might want to research this and edit your post before the flaming gets started.
the front diff is an upside down standard diff. It genuinely goes backwards!!
I thought he was misunderstanding the Nissan "reverse cut" front, but I complately underestimated the insanity of the germans! what a complete mind-f_ck
![#Crazy :crazyeyes:](./images/smilies/new_Eyecrazy.gif)
F-450+ (550, 650 etc) that have the 2.5t Eaton diffs have a similar lot of weirdness with the front truly going the wrong way.
Those damn Germans, they put the indicator handle on the wrong side, and thought it was a cool idea, now they are doing everything backwards
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Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 8:35 pm
by Dozoor
Interesting stuff , so they make there gearing all in the gearbox? , mmmm
rear is centered ? Its probly even a different ratio in the front .?
Larry