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Chicken Track or not
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 7:52 am
by drivesafe
Hi folks, I've posted this question on a few 4by sites and I’m interested in hearing the opinions of others on the use of a fairly commonly used term “Chicken Trackâ€
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 8:09 am
by Highway-Star
Few times I've been out, and taken a 'Chicken Track' (No I dont care about fessing up to it). When they give me any stick it is always in good fun not offensive; I tell them its actually a 'Vehicle Preservation Track' anyway.
The people I go with arn't competetive, and all they care about is fun, and we know if you dont feel comfortable doing something you wont have fun. Anyone who gives stick to someone for doing so, with intention of actual malice, is a 'bad sport', and needs to be knocked back a peg. I think its all to do with how the person comes accross, usually you can tell when a person is only having a bit of fun; anyway you wouldn't joke about it to someone you didn't know well (because of a fear they'll flatten you

).
Just my experience and opinion anyway.
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 8:13 am
by Gwagensteve
Interesting point. I tend to use the term "cheat track"
I think the "offence" is really taken by people who are letting their ego get in the way of having a good time.
There's no shame in taking a cheat/chicken track, just the same as there is no shame in getting stuck and needing a strap but some people seem to take it really personally.
They're often the same people who say that anyone that can drive a harder line to them is "abusing their car" or "being stupid"
Most people who have had near standard cars and heavily modified cars will tell you that they had as much fun driving their near standard car on easier terrain than their big car on hard terrain.
Takes all types....
Steve.
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 8:24 am
by drivesafe
I’m a regular user of the Obstaclly Challenged Alternate track and I’ve never come across anyone using the term Chicken Track for anything other than good advice for others, not being able to or, like myself, trying not to knock their vehicle around.
Personally, I thick if someone is that thin skinned that being given good safe advice to them by referring to a safer alternate track by calling it a “Chicken Trackâ€
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 8:42 am
by Eddy
I'm quite happy to take the chicken track. I can't afford to knock my vehicle around too much.
a) coz it's my DD, and
b) ear plugs and earmuffs together still no protection from SWMBO who would explain to me in great detail exactly where I went wrong in doing damage to aforesaid vehicle ...
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 9:32 am
by Thor
there's starving children if africa and people worry about what a track is called!
get over it!! drive it!
or don't drive it... chicken

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 9:34 am
by Ruffy
This is another 'political correctness' thread...
It's a "chicken track".. just like a black stuffed toy is a golly ethnic person, and indigenous australian is an Abo and so on.. They're not intended to be offensive, they're slang or shortened versions. If somebody is offended by these 'terms' then i personally think they need to look at there lives and find out where there real greivance lies...
Build bridges people..
Cheers Dan
***EDIT***
Holly shite.. i can't believe w og gets auto edited to ethnic****** It's a slang term... I'm over weight, not fat. fat offends me. from now on can outers please auto edit the word fat to over weight, or perhaps 'structurely over engineered'... FFS! It's out of hand. They're only words people.
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 9:58 am
by tj81
Anyone that has a go at someone for taking the "chicken" track, is just being a tool.....
Our club are quite happy for people to take these tracks, as we dont think its about taking the extreme track, or the hard track, breaking vehicles or comparing penis size. Its all about enjoying what were doing, and taking our minds off our everyday concerns.
People get just as much enjoyment from chicken tracks as those that do extreme tracks.
If offence is taken by someone that said you took the chicken track, then i think they need to lighten up a bit. (provided the comment was tounge in cheek)
If the comment was more than tounge in cheek, then as i said before, that person is simply a tool.
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 10:06 am
by Disco1Modified
A couple of years ago one of the clubs I'm a member of had exactly this discussion. It was agreed by all that using the term 'chicken track' might intimidate NEW members to the club as well as contribute in some way to 'peer group pressure'. During the discussion it was clear that those already IN the club were ok with the term. Everyone agreed that 'Alternate track' would be used to encourage each driver (new ones in particular) to feel free about making the best choice for their vehicle/state of mind or whatever. It hasn't been an issue to anyone and the club still gets new members. I think sometimes we forget what it's like to be the 'new kid on the block'.
just my2cw
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 10:12 am
by RoldIT
Nothing wrong with taking the chicken track. If someone doesn't like it being called that, it's just an ego thing and their just putting shit on themselves. Just throw mud at em!!!!

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 10:52 am
by spamwell
everytime someone says chicken track for some reason i expect to see either chickens or chicken wire while going through and i get slightly dissapointed lol.
i have never been offended by it and i use them all the time

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 11:15 am
by Pep
We can start calling it
The Lada Track
but i suppose someone's bound to find offence to that too
Who really cares what it's called?
If you and/or your tuck is not capable,comfortable or able to take the
normal track, then take the chicken track as long as your having fun.
Do we really have to be that politicly correct?
Pep
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 11:18 am
by junior80
Chicken track is not offensive.
calling it the disabled ramp or wheelchair ramp could be considered offensive.
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 11:21 am
by bogged
Gwagensteve wrote:I think the "offence" is really taken by people who are letting their ego get in the way of having a good time.
There's no shame in taking a cheat/chicken track, .
x billionteen.
Smart people know when the hard line is out of their league and know when to have a go. Who gives a shit what the pussy/cheat/smart persons track is called..
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 11:40 am
by bigcam
ARE YOU KIDDING ME??????????
I never thought political correctness of this level would get into our hobby of choice..
If this thread is for real, then i think whoever is getting offended needs a nice hot cup of harden the F^%$& UP.
sorry if i offended anyone

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 12:00 pm
by MUD CLUB
x 2 bigcam
After all we are AUSTRALIANS and taking the piss is what we do best
As RUFFY said if it offends BUILD A BRIDGE AND GET OVER IT
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 12:05 pm
by macca81
the chicken run is a term used in almost every offroad sport known, mt biking, snowboarding, even bloody billy kart derbys! get over it, its used by everyone, im yet to see anyone take offence to it, and the only time offence should be taken is by everyone else when someone asks if its offensive!

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 12:18 pm
by mud4b
i have even taken the chicken tracks in my mud4b, sure the truck could do it but i didnt feel confident at all a few times... but hey i got in before the others ,i said im going the chicken track then i got payed out... meh didnt worry me i didnt roll my truck... bwahahahhahahha
actually i have found most chicken tracks are actually quite fun and very rarely are flat or have no obsticals to overcome...
as for the term "chicken track" well thats what it is commonly known as so why wreck a universally known word/ meaning on the off chance it will ruin someones ego... as for sams "spamwell" comment i am the same, i always imagine a formal line of formal marching chickens... bwahahahha its a classic try it.
cheers mark.
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 12:34 pm
by GQ Bear
Many of our best tracks are being closed because people with the wrong setups are attempting to drive them and 1) causing damage, 2) having to be rescued, and 3) complaining to parks about the track condition.
Chicken tracks give these people an alternate route to avoid these outcomes. They also allow a group of vehicles to continue along a route. ie, 3 out of 5 vehicles may take hard line and other 2 meet up via chicken track.
Nobody should take offence to the term and the term should remain as 'chicken track' and nothing else.
When i'm out with my mates wheelin' we put a red cross out of electrical tape on windscreen denoting DNF for anybody who takes a chicken track, suffers a mechanical breakdown, needing a snatch, winching when others drove, or any other indescretion. It's all done as a light-hearted rib, and nothing else. It's especially good when pitting 'Team Nissan' against 'Team Toyota', etc. We get some good laughs out of it all, and it's never turned nasty.
We go out to have fun and enjoy our sport. If you go getting sore about a word then take up knitting.
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 1:59 pm
by Goatse.AJ
Whenever I've led trips, I ALWAYS make sure there is a chicken track or alternative route around difficult sections of track, particularly w hen we've had novices in the group.
I just won't wheel with knobs that pressure less experienced people/less capable vehicles into tackling things they're not comfortable with.
Have NO problem with the term. I've found those that make a big issue with it tend to suffer bonnet length envy.
Don't think having an issue with it is a PC thing, I think it's more a fragile ego thing
$0.02
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 2:31 pm
by chimpboy
Seriously, has it actually happened that someone was offended by this?
I often say, "fark that, I'm taking the chicken run/route/track."
Fark there are some screwed up people out there. Must be the same types who start fights because they think someone was looking at them the wrong way.
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 2:59 pm
by Brainless
Ive had to take chicken tracks before and i get laughed at by my mates for a few minutes after but usually then it comes to something a lil different and they have to take a chicken track to avoid something it usually evens out when your wheeling with mates that have only midly modified 4x4s like mine
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 5:29 pm
by Slunnie
I don't even think about the connotations associated with it being called a chicken track. Thats just what it's called.
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 6:01 pm
by Eddy
Pep wrote:We can start calling it
The Lada Track
but i suppose someone's bound to find offence to that too
Pep
OI! ...

now that
is offensive!
I won't be taking my Lada on no chicken track ....

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 6:31 pm
by 90Mav
Perhaps ppl who cant deal with taking the 'chicken' track, should just do the extreme track, and see how much they get payed out when there rig travels home on a tilt tray

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 6:35 pm
by chikoroll_
if you truely are offended by such a weak insult, then you might as well piss off to england... they tolerate whinging over there
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 6:39 pm
by chunderlicious
Disco1Modified wrote:A couple of years ago one of the clubs I'm a member of had exactly this discussion. It was agreed by all that using the term 'chicken track' might intimidate NEW members to the club as well as contribute in some way to 'peer group pressure'. During the discussion it was clear that those already IN the club were ok with the term. Everyone agreed that 'Alternate track' would be used to encourage each driver (new ones in particular) to feel free about making the best choice for their vehicle/state of mind or whatever. It hasn't been an issue to anyone and the club still gets new members. I think sometimes we forget what it's like to be the 'new kid on the block'.
just my2cw
nothing wrong with peer group pressure, leads to the best drives of the trip... and the ones who dont fall to group pressure get pissed off and look like idiots for getting so narky about it

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 6:59 pm
by chikoroll_
peer pressure is just a pathetic alternate to weak mind...
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 7:53 pm
by Brendan-s
bigcam wrote:ARE YOU KIDDING ME??????????
I never thought political correctness of this level would get into our hobby of choice..
If this thread is for real, then i think whoever is getting offended needs a nice hot cup of harden the F^%$& UP.
sorry if i offended anyone

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Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 12:40 am
by fool_injected
I think to solve this you need to investigate egg tracks
Everyone knows egg tracks come before chicken tracks
