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4E-FTE into lj81

Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 6:26 pm
by tanshi
I found some where i can pick up a 4efte for a reasonable price to go into my lj81. Can any one tell me what gearbox i would be looking at to mate up with this? also any info on any common issue with these, and problems i might encounter.

Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 6:36 pm
by nicbeer
4efte?

that the starlet turbo or NA stalet engine?

starlet engines are good. mum used to have one and no problems at all.

gearbox dunno - maybe try a toymods forum. knowing toyota it would be the same as something out there.

Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 7:40 pm
by tanshi
yeah its a turbo gti starlet motor

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 9:02 am
by Bazooka
All the E series Toyota engines are FWD so there is no RWD bellhousing available for this engine. You will have to custom make anything to mount it RWD.

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 11:44 am
by tanshi
Bugger, i guess that writes that off.

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 11:52 am
by Gwagensteve
That's a shame - I think the Starlet motor would be ideal for a sierra.

Can you sell me the turbo at an even more reasonable price??? :D

Steve.

e motor

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 5:52 pm
by want33s
If the Starlet E series motor is so good, would it be worth getting Dellow to make a bellhousing to fit it to a Sierra 5 speed?

Re: e motor

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 6:35 pm
by v840
want33s wrote:If the Starlet E series motor is so good, would it be worth getting Dellow to make a bellhousing to fit it to a Sierra 5 speed?
Any idea of costs on that? If its affordable I may be interested. Group buy perhaps?

Re: e motor

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 7:17 pm
by want33s
v840 wrote:
Any idea of costs on that? If its affordable I may be interested. Group buy perhaps?
No idea, but I've sent an email enquiry. Will hear back soon.

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 8:55 pm
by Bazooka
Just remember its going to take a lot more than a custom bellhousing to fit this engine in RWD. There is going to be issues with the clutch/flywheel and starter motor if your trying to mount it to the Sierra gearbox.
Other areas would be the fact that RWD engine mounts would need to be manufactured. The throttle body points to the firewall when turned around so this may need some work. The turbo and manifold may be located in the wrong position requiring a custom manifold to get everything to point in the right direction.
The reason noone has gone to the trouble of converting this engine to RWD in the past is because there is so much work involved to do so when there are better alternatives out there.

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 8:42 am
by tanshi
I managed to fit a Baleno 1.6 into a sierra so i understand how much hassle fitting a FWD engine into a RWD can be. however i have also put in a request with dellows ;)

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 8:46 am
by Gwagensteve
Bazooka wrote: The reason noone has gone to the trouble of converting this engine to RWD in the past is because there is so much work involved to do so when there are better alternatives out there.
Dellows are only gonig to be interested in commercially viable swaps, unless you want a $3000 bellhousing.

A baleno into a sierra is easy - all the "correct" parts are available ( I am doing one now) but a complete oddball - what's the point?

A 4Agze will murder the starlet motor and has been done a gazillion times.

Steve.

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 8:54 am
by tanshi
The starlet motor was the one i was looking at because its a 1.3 to go in the LJ81 rather than pushing my luck with a larger capacity motor.

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 9:08 am
by Gwagensteve
I thought QLD was pretty relaxed with capacity increase?

I could see more potential problems with emissions with a JDM only motor regardless of capaity than capacity itself.

Steve.

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 9:19 am
by tanshi
From what i have seen and heard QLD is not really all that flexable with engine capacities. Unless you know an engineer on a first name basis. But i guess if its going to be a tough swap i'll have to look at other options. I would go a 1.3 jimny G13BB but there are not alot of those around. Any one know what's been done in LJ's before in QLD???

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 9:27 am
by Gwagensteve
You will be on first name basis by the end of the job :D

The G13BB swap would be a good one. The manifolding and cooling arrangement makes for a neat fit.

Another good swap would be a carry/sierra/cappuccino 660, if you can get the emissions signed off. Judging by the LWB on Ebay, someone managed in QLD.

Steve.

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 9:59 am
by tanshi
Any ideas what i should be paying for a G13BB?

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 10:07 am
by Gwagensteve
depends on what you want with it.

I have heard of whole wrecks going at auction for $2.5K, but the going rate from a wrecker for effectviely a cut, low K, with auto and full loom including TCC (trans control) and shifter would run about $3.5K

Personally, I'd build one with a auto (they're actually shorter than a sierra manual and will drive better offroad, but a sierra manual would also work fine.

A jimny manual is not as suitable due to the shift housing.

Steve.

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 11:01 pm
by Taff
Gwagensteve wrote: Judging by the LWB on Ebay, someone managed in QLD.
Steve.
i had a good look but i cant find this.. is it something you saw recently or a while ago? would be pretty sweet.

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 8:50 am
by Gwagensteve
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/SUZUKI-SIERRA-LW ... dZViewItem

This was the ad. Went for $2850, which seems fair.

Steve.