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Well i am new to the suzuki fold having sold my gq. Bought a 95 swb yesterday and have had RWC inspection done today, the only item picked giving me dramas is the rear seat belts have been defected.

I'm hoping someone here has a set i could either buy or borrow (a slab seems fair) just to get my RWC as i will put the old ones back in after. This guy is fussy so they must be in good nick.

It goes back tue for final check so it's a bit urgent.

I had bought some aftermarket ones from autobahn but they don't fit and the wrecker i tried has none either.

Any help much appreciated, pm . Thanks.

what if you take the rear seats out and remover the seat belts will he pass it?
If you want to keep them to use then get new ones from a suzuki specialist, or seatbelt place. Im pretty sure its illegal to install/sell second hand seatbelts.

muppet_man67 wrote:what if you take the rear seats out and remover the seat belts will he pass it?
If you want to keep them to use then get new ones from a suzuki specialist, or seatbelt place. Im pretty sure its illegal to install/sell second hand seatbelts.

Tomorrow i will ask if that will solve the problem, it would be an easy fix to just remove the seat.

I have been searching for new belts (haven't tried suzuki yet), but no luck so far, unfortunately i'm not familiar with the good suzuki wreckers in melbourne, have been to suziworks in heidelberg but he has none. Any tips on where to shop are appreciated.

muppet_man67 wrote:what if you take the rear seats out and remover the seat belts will he pass it?
If you want to keep them to use then get new ones from a suzuki specialist, or seatbelt place. Im pretty sure its illegal to install/sell second hand seatbelts.

Strangley enough in some states removing seats requires re-engineering
It because the compliance plate say seating for four and you have changed it to two

fool_injected wrote:

muppet_man67 wrote:what if you take the rear seats out and remover the seat belts will he pass it?
If you want to keep them to use then get new ones from a suzuki specialist, or seatbelt place. Im pretty sure its illegal to install/sell second hand seatbelts.

Strangley enough in some states removing seats requires re-engineering
It because the compliance plate say seating for four and you have changed it to two

Yes I have heard this but there are two things that might go in your favor. Suzuki tended to use whatever compliance plate they had sitting on the workshop floor. I have seen compliance plates that didn't even match the car so its possible that it says 2 seater.

Secondly roadworthy guys generally (from my experience) either don't know or are not worried about technical legalities. They just look at the basic stuff. ie do the lights work, windscreen good, brakes have more then 12 months in them, oil leaks, steering play etc. Vic roads are supposed to pick up on technical modifications. (which they don't) when I took my car to get regoed 31" tires The inspection guy wrote down a higher Tare weight because it had larger tires on it.

Yeah most roadworthy certifiers would not pick up on this
My guys good, it's not on the check list then if it's free from his perspective

yep it is illegal and stoopid to fit second hand seat belts , in an accident if the belts are in use they stretch around 20% ( its a rough percentage ) but they only stretch once so the next time the belts are in an accident they don't stretch your body take the sudden stop. for the sake of $40 - $100 buy new ones.

fool_injected wrote:

muppet_man67 wrote:what if you take the rear seats out and remover the seat belts will he pass it?
If you want to keep them to use then get new ones from a suzuki specialist, or seatbelt place. Im pretty sure its illegal to install/sell second hand seatbelts.

Strangley enough in some states removing seats requires re-engineering
It because the compliance plate say seating for four and you have changed it to two

In nsw you will require a blueslip to change the factory seating ..... If it is picked up.

I had a bulletin from the ANFWDC (National 4WD coucil) that indicated that it was legal to reduce the seating capaicy of the vehicle.

The reason was that people had been or were concerned that they would be defected for removing the rearmost seats in a Landcruiser etc where the compliance plate stated, for instance, 7 but capacity was now 5.

My information is that that it is 100% legal to remove seats as required.

The big issue, and were engineers/modification plates are required relates to increasing the capacity of the vehicle. This is a major hassle.

Pull the seats, it will should be fine in VIC.

Mick at Suziworld will not sell second hand seatbelts.

I have seen a complicance plate with correct matching numbers indicating that a sierra was, in fact, a carry van.

Suzuki fitted whatever they had lying around, it seems.

Steve.

noelb1 wrote:

fool_injected wrote:

muppet_man67 wrote:what if you take the rear seats out and remover the seat belts will he pass it?
If you want to keep them to use then get new ones from a suzuki specialist, or seatbelt place. Im pretty sure its illegal to install/sell second hand seatbelts.

Strangley enough in some states removing seats requires re-engineering
It because the compliance plate say seating for four and you have changed it to two

In nsw you will require a blueslip to change the factory seating ..... If it is picked up.

Same in QLD,
When I bought mine it said 4 seater on the blue slip. transport department didnt even want to look at the car But it says 2 seater on the plate, I have told the transport department and they said next time the rego is due come into one of the office and let the girl behind the counter know and they can change it!
I quieried her on this and they said dont worry about it, But I know if the cops want to get picky they will Cops are the only ones to worry about with this stuff, transport department dont give a
I got a mobile guy out to do a R/W on the misses car before we sold it, he only held the bonnet open long enough to write the chassis and engine no down and it was shut. he drove 50m down the road braked then turned around and got out, checked the lights and said all good. didnt check brake pad levels only looked at the drivers seat belt when put it on $ 80 later and it passed, (normaly it should only be $56 but because he came to me he charged a call out fee.) should have kept his number== dogy anyone

Gwagensteve wrote:Mick at Suziworld will not sell second hand seatbelts.

He may not like to but he sold me a passenger front one 2 days ago without any questions, just did not have any rear ones in stock.

yep it is illegal and stoopid to fit second hand seat belts , in an accident if the belts are in use they stretch around 20% ( its a rough percentage ) but they only stretch once so the next time the belts are in an accident they don't stretch your body take the sudden stop. for the sake of $40 - $100 buy new ones.

I agree entirely if they have been in an accident but otherwise they are no different to any other restraint.

I have searched high and low for new ones and suzuki quoted today $160ish each with a 3 week wait from japan.

Fortunately today i have found a company in Ballarat that specialise in seat belts, there's hardly anyone out there doing them, and hopefully will get some joy from them, sounds promising so far on the phone, just hope they have some that fit, but if not they can custom make.

Thanks for the replies.

Gwagensteve wrote: I have seen a complicance plate with correct matching numbers indicating that a sierra was, in fact, a carry van.

Suzuki fitted whatever they had lying around, it seems.

Steve.

I think we are talking about the same car.

Im going through the roadworhty process at the moment, my back belts were a little bit frayed aswell.

Just go to pick a part, suzuki swift centre belt fits, just find 2 swifts and grab the centre belt out of them, it will cost you $30 bucks.

Just make sure they are in good nick, stitching all good, no fraying.

The angle of the fixing bracket is a little different but they fit and look like they are factory.

Mine passed fine

some sierras were 2 seat factoy, like my rolled hard top.
the complience plate said 2 seat van, but it had a rear seat and belts =4 seats?

mugginsmoo wrote:some sierras were 2 seat factoy, like my rolled hard top.
the complience plate said 2 seat van, but it had a rear seat and belts =4 seats?

Thats what mine is!

Couldn't work it out at first but after a few calls found out that thats what it was!

2 versions of sierras were sold.

A JU - which had no tachometer, fixed back seats, no rear seats and compliance as a 2 seater. These were cheap.

Drover soft tops were closer to the JU spec and also had PVC windows.

JX (more common) have the tach, rear seats, nicer trim etc and compliance for 4 seats.

This persisted into the WT, but I think that only hardtop widetracks were available in the JU trim.

We have had a few in the club (WT JU's) They specify VAN on the compliance plate to clearly define them as a commercial vehicle with no passenger rear seats.

I think they were about $1500 cheaper at the time.

Steve.

a drover hightop btw is also a Holden P/van on the rego. trying to explain that is annoying. also regod as 4 seats.

6rxhx wrote:Im going through the roadworhty process at the moment, my back belts were a little bit frayed aswell.

Just go to pick a part, suzuki swift centre belt fits, just find 2 swifts and grab the centre belt out of them, it will cost you $30 bucks.

Just make sure they are in good nick, stitching all good, no fraying.

The angle of the fixing bracket is a little different but they fit and look like they are factory.

Mine passed fine

Thanks for this, i will check it out monday hopefully save me a trip to ballarat, cheers. Dave.

nicbeer wrote:a drover hightop btw is also a Holden P/van on the rego. trying to explain that is annoying. also regod as 4 seats.

Had fun confusing the chick at the RTA with that one

I've had insurance companies tell me there is no such vehicle as a Holden Drover????
My compliance plates say it's a van too but seating capacity is only 2 although it did at one point have rear seats

Gwagensteve wrote:2 versions of sierras were sold.

A JU - which had no tachometer, fixed back seats, no rear seats and compliance as a 2 seater. These were cheap.

Drover soft tops were closer to the JU spec and also had PVC windows.

JX (more common) have the tach, rear seats, nicer trim etc and compliance for 4 seats.

This persisted into the WT, but I think that only hardtop widetracks were available in the JU trim.

We have had a few in the club (WT JU's) They specify VAN on the compliance plate to clearly define them as a commercial vehicle with no passenger rear seats.

I think they were about $1500 cheaper at the time.

Steve.

My zook ST has plastic door trims.
I have never seen them before never seen any since
Do you know what models they are from

If you still have any i found this guy by mistake and has had every thing i have neede in a hurry!

Dion Amato's Suzuki Specialists
18 Tottenham Parade, West Footscray
03 9318 9400

Just pretty much a suzuki wrecker and the prices arnt bad either!

fool_injected wrote:[
My zook ST has plastic door trims.
I have never seen them before never seen any since
Do you know what models they are from

what color is your zook a mate i know put coily door trims in his zook i think it was a 94 model (guess) but it was dark blue in colour, maybe its his old one

two tone grey
it's the ols Snake Zook

anymore details on the new replacement belts?
My rears are stuffed and i wanna start taking the kids out with me.

That opens a new question that ill start in a new post. where are the child seat restraint mounting points?

suzuki boy wrote:If you still have any i found this guy by mistake and has had every thing i have neede in a hurry!

Dion Amato's Suzuki Specialists
18 Tottenham Parade, West Footscray
03 9318 9400

Just pretty much a suzuki wrecker and the prices arnt bad either!

This guy has moved, now at 554 geelong rd. Thanks for the tip, they had the suzuki swift centre belts at $15 each, a bargain in my mind .

Fitted them tonight and you wouldn't know any different from the original.
Off to finally get the RWC tomorrow and tear up the streets

FYI the company that has the new belts is called Hemco in ballarat ph 53341213, but they were to slow to get back to me, anyhow the swift one's are perfect.

Thanks all for the advice and offers of assistance hope i can return the favour.

holeyhardtop wrote:

suzuki boy wrote:If you still have any i found this guy by mistake and has had every thing i have neede in a hurry!

Dion Amato's Suzuki Specialists
18 Tottenham Parade, West Footscray
03 9318 9400

Just pretty much a suzuki wrecker and the prices arnt bad either!

This guy has moved, now at 554 geelong rd. Thanks for the tip, they had the suzuki swift centre belts at $15 each, a bargain in my mind .

Fitted them tonight and you wouldn't know any different from the original.
Off to finally get the RWC tomorrow and tear up the streets

FYI the company that has the new belts is called Hemco in ballarat ph 53341213, but they were to slow to get back to me, anyhow the swift one's are perfect.

Thanks all for the advice and offers of assistance hope i can return the favour.

Fair enough i didn't no he had moved!

Ussually has every thing there!

Glad you got the belts in time and that i could help out!