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Claw question
Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 8:26 pm
by MUD000
Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 8:42 pm
by Struth
Looks like it has been run at too high a speed with too low a pressure.
At least that is one cause of what you pictures show.
Bad luck, hope no one was hurt.
Cheers
tyre
Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 8:48 pm
by DR Frankenstine
Its your wife you shouldnt be happy with. That tyre's been driven on flat. You don't need to be a rocket scientist to work that out.
SORRY!!!
Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 8:49 pm
by sniper
Is there melted rubber inside the tyre? looks like rubber dust. There would be a good bit in there if what struth says happened.
But by pics its either what struth said or she ran over something big and sharp. But more likely low pressure high speed.
Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 8:49 pm
by turps
Had a BFG mud do the same thing. High speed low pressures is what did it to mine. Oh and they where at approx 50% also.
Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 8:51 pm
by MUD000
They run at 30psi which I always run in them
No no-one was hurt luckily but she was doing 110km/h when it happen
Cheers Dan
Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 8:59 pm
by turps
Mine where at approx 25psi. Which is fine for some decent speeds. Maybe have a look around the carcass for a puncture. As I think mine may have had one, causeing a slow leak. But I couldn't confirm it.
But we where doing 110-120km/hr at the time. So by the time we pulled up it had shredded itself. Luckily for me. It was a rear tyre and the Paj that was right behind me seen the brake lights in the dust.
Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 5:33 am
by Tapage
I read at some place in the web ( maybe not a true info ) that Claws are designed to run at low press found it when I ran my 33X13.5 and it claim ran it at 22 PSI ..
Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 7:51 am
by MUD CLUB
ive seen mates claws 1 is a 33 other is a 35 both have huge bubbles in sidewall. seen and changed before they got as bad as yours but i think they just havnt get enough sidewall strength
Re: tyre
Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 7:57 am
by rvh96
DR Frankenstine wrote:Its your wife you shouldnt be happy with. That tyre's been driven on flat. You don't need to be a rocket scientist to work that out.
SORRY!!!
x2
Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 8:19 am
by M1S3RY
Did it blow the valve out too, or was from something else which led to low/no pressure?
Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 8:24 am
by cloughy
Its funny how when people talk about claws, they're never mentioning whether radial or bias, considering they're 2 completely different tyres
Radial claws were the worst things I ever owned
Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 12:55 pm
by WICKED
cloughy wrote:Its funny how when people talk about claws, they're never mentioning whether radial or bias, considering they're 2 completely different tyres
Look at the side wall maybe?
Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 5:08 pm
by bad_religion_au
get onto the mickey T distributer in your state and get them to have a look. love or hate the tires, they give brilliant customer service. when i chipped up my brothers brand new set, Ryano off here arranged for the SA distributer to come to my work when it suited me to inspect them to be sure it wasn't a manufacturing fault, even tho i was pretty sure it was due to some sharp rocks while wheeling.
personally i loved the tires while i had them, and the way they treated their customers, ensures i'll only ever buy mickey T if i ever need tires other than swampers.
Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 5:54 pm
by MUD000
The vavle came out as I run heavy duty tubes in them as well
I love the tyres too therve been great up until this
I'm preety sure they wouldn.t of been flat as they were only pumped up a week ago after going to the snow
Its more a pain as I cant just buy one as the other 3 only have 35-40% tread left so I know have 3 spares
Not sure what to do know
Cheers Dan
Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 8:02 pm
by its aford not a nissan
MUD000 wrote:
Its more a pain as I cant just buy one as the other 3 only have 35-40% tread left so I know have 3 spares
Not sure what to do know
Cheers Dan
do you have a trailer?
Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 9:54 pm
by guzzla
I would agree with the above in that it appears to be from running low pressures at high speeds. Having said that Ive run my 35in Claws with 20psi continiously at 120kmph for hours on outback dirt roads without incident.
Im sure if you asked your missus wheather the vehicle seemed to sag to one side a short time prior to explosion she would say yes.
Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 10:16 pm
by jet-6
cloughy wrote:
Radial claws were the worst things I ever owned
Care to explain why?
Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 12:32 am
by j-top paj
X2
Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 9:16 am
by cloughy
jet-6 wrote:cloughy wrote:
Radial claws were the worst things I ever owned
Care to explain why?
No lateral grip, No traction in the mud, No traction on wet roads, shitful on fast dirt/gravel, just generally crap, Oh and the 33's I had were well shy on size..........generally crap alround
Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 9:27 am
by bogged
cloughy wrote:jet-6 wrote:cloughy wrote:
Radial claws were the worst things I ever owned
Care to explain why?
No lateral grip, No traction in the mud, No traction on wet roads, shitful on fast dirt/gravel, just generally crap, Oh and the 33's I had were well shy on size..........generally crap alround
you will scare the kiddies who think looks are important, and that they are the best things on the road talkin like that
Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 9:35 am
by cloughy
bogged wrote:cloughy wrote:jet-6 wrote:cloughy wrote:
Radial claws were the worst things I ever owned
Care to explain why?
No lateral grip, No traction in the mud, No traction on wet roads, shitful on fast dirt/gravel, just generally crap, Oh and the 33's I had were well shy on size..........generally crap alround
you will scare the kiddies who think looks are important, and that they are the best things on the road talkin like that
You mean like this
Bingham wrote:cloughy wrote:I thick radial claws are CRAP, cRap crAP. No lateral grip, even on fast dirt, don't clean well in the mud at all and are bad on wet asphalt aswell. but they seem ok on dry bitumen and reasonably quiet. but i'd have more faith in a BF muddie than a radial claw both on and off road.
i would suggest that this style of post is not quite needed. Have your opinion by all means but do not go over the top.... when the tyres have clearly proven themselves as being good good good.... maybe just a better choice of words....
my 35 claws handled well, no louder than an mtr... needed approx 5 less lb in sand for that floating feeling and cleaned well particularly against the mtr but i have seen the bfg perform well..
i personally would have the claw again without hesitation
and yes if your in the mighty brivegas head fourby's marooka way and speak to our resident rubber guru ryano
you will find them getting upset with me in this thread and the links attached in it
http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/phpBB2/vi ... light=claw
Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 10:11 am
by HIL01X
MUD000 wrote:The vavle came out as I run heavy duty tubes in them as well
I love the tyres too therve been great up until this
I'm preety sure they wouldn.t of been flat as they were only pumped up a week ago after going to the snow
Cheers Dan
They can go flat you know, ever heard of a puncture
Definatly been driven on flat.
I hate tubes, far better of going tubeless.
Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 1:08 pm
by bad_religion_au
cloughy wrote:jet-6 wrote:cloughy wrote:
Radial claws were the worst things I ever owned
Care to explain why?
No lateral grip, No traction in the mud, No traction on wet roads, shitful on fast dirt/gravel, just generally crap, Oh and the 33's I had were well shy on size..........generally crap alround
compared to what tire tho?
the 33's i had were the only tires i've had that came in close to 33 inches, they were better than any radial i've driven in the mud, and handled better, especially in the dry than a bFG all terrain. sure they won't have the grip of a set of pirrelli P-zero rosso's, or the mud clearing ability of a simex, but neither of those tires fit the bill.
Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 4:07 pm
by cloughy
bad_religion_au wrote:cloughy wrote:jet-6 wrote:cloughy wrote:
Radial claws were the worst things I ever owned
Care to explain why?
No lateral grip, No traction in the mud, No traction on wet roads, shitful on fast dirt/gravel, just generally crap, Oh and the 33's I had were well shy on size..........generally crap alround
compared to what tire tho?
the 33's i had were the only tires i've had that came in close to 33 inches, they were better than any radial i've driven in the mud, and handled better, especially in the dry than a bFG all terrain. sure they won't have the grip of a set of pirrelli P-zero rosso's, or the mud clearing ability of a simex, but neither of those tires fit the bill.
Sigh....... Dont' dis the claws man
Side by side with a set of bald 33"kumho's I had on my tractor, RR with 6.2 chev and diff locks and......
They were an inch shy, the claws were no more than 5,000k old, and that's giving them the benefit of the doubt
My opinion only, but I've owned and driven extensively on more than just 2 sets of tyres
Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 5:27 pm
by booflux
cloughy wrote:jet-6 wrote:cloughy wrote:
Radial claws were the worst things I ever owned
Care to explain why?
No lateral grip, No traction in the mud, No traction on wet roads, shitful on fast dirt/gravel, just generally crap, Oh and the 33's I had were well shy on size..........generally crap alround
I would have to agree worst tyre I have ever owned also and like you I cop abuse for saying so
Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 8:39 pm
by Bluey
cloughy wrote:bogged wrote:cloughy wrote:jet-6 wrote:cloughy wrote:
Radial claws were the worst things I ever owned
Care to explain why?
No lateral grip, No traction in the mud, No traction on wet roads, shitful on fast dirt/gravel, just generally crap, Oh and the 33's I had were well shy on size..........generally crap alround
you will scare the kiddies who think looks are important, and that they are the best things on the road talkin like that
You mean like this
Bingham wrote:cloughy wrote:I thick radial claws are CRAP, cRap crAP. No lateral grip, even on fast dirt, don't clean well in the mud at all and are bad on wet asphalt aswell. but they seem ok on dry bitumen and reasonably quiet. but i'd have more faith in a BF muddie than a radial claw both on and off road.
i would suggest that this style of post is not quite needed. Have your opinion by all means but do not go over the top.... when the tyres have clearly proven themselves as being good good good.... maybe just a better choice of words....
my 35 claws handled well, no louder than an mtr... needed approx 5 less lb in sand for that floating feeling and cleaned well particularly against the mtr but i have seen the bfg perform well..
i personally would have the claw again without hesitation
and yes if your in the mighty brivegas head fourby's marooka way and speak to our resident rubber guru ryano
you will find them getting upset with me in this thread and the links attached in it
http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/phpBB2/vi ... light=claw
ha ha. that's some funny reading
Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 3:18 pm
by cloughy
booflux wrote:cloughy wrote:jet-6 wrote:cloughy wrote:
Radial claws were the worst things I ever owned
Care to explain why?
No lateral grip, No traction in the mud, No traction on wet roads, shitful on fast dirt/gravel, just generally crap, Oh and the 33's I had were well shy on size..........generally crap alround
I would have to agree worst tyre I have ever owned also and like you I cop abuse for saying so
claws
Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 6:07 pm
by DR Frankenstine
I have also owned radial claws and found them to be great. They were not real good on gravell though. The main reason people say they are no good is they are to lazy to air down in the bush as reccomended by the manufacturer.
Re: claws
Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 7:11 pm
by cloughy
DR Frankenstine wrote:I have also owned radial claws and found them to be great. They were not real good on gravell though. The main reason people say they are no good is they are to lazy to air down in the bush as reccomended by the manufacturer.
I air down the moment I leave the asphalt
Everytime
