Outer Limits 4x4 Board

Hey,

was surfin today and found this site. I know a few people have been looking at auto options cheap enough if u can get the auto.

Also has dual mikuni carb conversions on there.

http://www.samuraiguy.com/index.html

Nic

Interesting.... ( and I haven't read the Zuwharrie thread) but normally Glides don't work with small motors well at all.

I believe the shortest 1st gear is 2.45:1 (same as trimatic) but then you step straight to direct- it's too big of a jump for a little 4 clylinder.

Probably OK in the rocks (where you will never shift into 2nd) but not all that drivable elsewhere.

Just my 2C

Twin Mikunis seem very interesting... I have tinkered with these carbs on bikes, and seem pokey enough...
there isnt much tech on the website - it would be interesting to see how they would go on the zook...

but i am probably dreaming

Gwagensteve wrote:Interesting.... ( and I haven't read the Zuwharrie thread) but normally Glides don't work with small motors well at all.

I believe the shortest 1st gear is 2.45:1 (same as trimatic) but then you step straight to direct- it's too big of a jump for a little 4 clylinder.

Probably OK in the rocks (where you will never shift into 2nd) but not all that drivable elsewhere.

Just my 2C

spot on you would need to spend a grand or so on building the glide then
when running a 3000rp, stall your gunna need a cooler twice the size of a zook radiator , getting on and off the power would be savage
and unbalancing, no finese in this at all.

just an update i have seen on pirate

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=599938

my plates are 1/2 inch aluminum water jetted , torque converters are made by continental [ many different stalls available] bolt directly to 1.6 flexplate..... mates any g-series zuke motor to any gm [v8] drivetrain, all flywheel sides of cranks are same-sg

so i may be guessin that u could run any GM auto behind the zook motor?

just seen about getting a manifold made to suit four mic carbs will keep you posted on how it goes

nicbeer wrote:just an update i have seen on pirate

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=599938

my plates are 1/2 inch aluminum water jetted , torque converters are made by continental [ many different stalls available] bolt directly to 1.6 flexplate..... mates any g-series zuke motor to any gm [v8] drivetrain, all flywheel sides of cranks are same-sg

so i may be guessin that u could run any GM auto behind the zook motor?

I suppose, but why would you want to? the AW-4 is an excellent auto that is relatively unstressed with a 1.6 in front of it, it also has a 2.4:1 converter ratio and full solenoid controlled shifting, while the trimatic is cheap, strong, short, and can be beefed up with heaps of aftermarket parts.

T700 - much bigger and heavier than an AW-4, and hybrid hydraulic/solenoid shifting (I think)
TH350 - a bigger heavier trimatic
TH400 - A bigger heavier TH350

I cant comment on power consumption, but believe that any of these will suck more HP than the Suzuki used transmissions.

I think all of these are way more than a Suzuki motor needs, an just add weight and hassle to a conversion.

Steve.

Just read the Pirate thread.... Hmmm, this guy sure is "different"

OK, so he's running a buggy with a glide - 1.8:1 1st gear, into a 4 speed atlas with 10.5:1 compound low.

With 4.88 gears, I get 92.2: 1st, which + converter will be cool.

I am sure it will be fine in the rocks, but on the street???? - Here's the problem.

so you try to pull away from the lights. you only have a 1.8 first, so you need plenty of stall to make it pull. Let's say 2500 rpm of stall. That's 29 kph of road speed so there's a lot of slip and bogging anf general misbehaviour to get it of the line.

You accelerate up to 100kph, which is 5200rpm..... and then change into drive, which drops your revs to 2900 rpm... very marginal I think. If revs drop back to 2500 rpm, you'll drop below your stall speed and the car will get sluggish and the converter will cook, so you kickdown, revs go to 4400 and you buzz off towards cruise speed again.

Its just not a solution for a car driven at speed/ on the street. At all.

The fact this guy is setting it up with Swist GTI cams/head and motorbike carbs ? Like I said, cool for a buggy, but not for any more than that.

Steve.