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Cheap wheel spacers ??
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 3:03 pm
by vicelore
Hey
well iv decided i need a little more width on the girl and pay days commin up.
iv really got 2 options .
1 i go some new offset rims.
2 i go some spacers.
i found these the other day.
http://www.lowrangeoffroad.com/samdrivetrain.htm
they seem cheap. at 200$ for 4, what you guys think ? any experiance running them ?
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 3:26 pm
by STIKA
what size spacer are they
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 3:49 pm
by vicelore
i was thinking the same thing.. is there a standard size ?
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 3:50 pm
by sierrajim
You're obviously aware that wheel spacers are illegal, even for Competition use.
Offset rims, even though they aren't street legal only require one set of nuts to hold them on and are allowed in comps.
Personally, offset rims are the cleanest way of doing things.
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 3:53 pm
by vicelore
yea i was thinking of goin down that parth.
any recomendations ? somewhere in melb. an what size would i go for . my tyers currently hit my springs before full lock.
it would be nice if i could stop this.
i want the maxium width without having to cut firewall etc.
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 4:07 pm
by sierrajim
Eastern Wheel works would be a start.
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 4:15 pm
by vicelore
sierrajim wrote:Eastern Wheel works would be a start.
ok kool thanks. * googleing *
i did think the easiest way would be take the zook in and try .
Cheers
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 4:49 pm
by Big D
Dont wheel spacers also add extra stress on the bearings?
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 4:50 pm
by alien
so does offset rims... you're increasing leverage on the bearings either way...
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 6:00 pm
by dank
alien wrote:so does offset rims... you're increasing leverage on the bearings either way...
Not that it makes a huge difference from my experience with offset rims.
There are a few 15x8 steel rims that have a -30 offset which put the edge of my 31x10.5 silverstone MT-117 Extremes a touch over 70mm each side of the wheel flare on my WT.
I think in 15x7 the biggest standard offset you can buy is -15 from speedy Rims.
You should see what price it is to get your current steelies cut and flipped. might work out cheaper and then u don't have the hassle of storing or selling your current rims.
This is how wide mine is currently
After wheeling with my -30s I find that I am maybe 2 or so inch narrower than the big trucks like hiluxs etc which means that I am diffing out a lot more (or maybe its the types of tracks I'm attempting that have changed
)
Width isn't necessarily everything, standard width and your 32s or whatever you had would be a good combo....unless you want wider for more stabilty...considering your past....it might be a good thing
Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 8:33 am
by vicelore
dank wrote:alien wrote:so does offset rims... you're increasing leverage on the bearings either way...
Not that it makes a huge difference from my experience with offset rims.
There are a few 15x8 steel rims that have a -30 offset which put the edge of my 31x10.5 silverstone MT-117 Extremes a touch over 70mm each side of the wheel flare on my WT.
I think in 15x7 the biggest standard offset you can buy is -15 from speedy Rims.
You should see what price it is to get your current steelies cut and flipped. might work out cheaper and then u don't have the hassle of storing or selling your current rims.
This is how wide mine is currently
After wheeling with my -30s I find that I am maybe 2 or so inch narrower than the big trucks like hiluxs etc which means that I am diffing out a lot more (or maybe its the types of tracks I'm attempting that have changed
)
Width isn't necessarily everything, standard width and your 32s or whatever you had would be a good combo....unless you want wider for more stabilty...considering your past....it might be a good thing
HAHA my past hehe. that wont be happening again i give you the drum ...
but yea i just want a little more width. mostly so people can drive on the road without feeling like there goin to die.
i think one of the problems that lead to the flip last time ( apart from stupid driving) was that i had forgot to air up before hitting up the roads.
i do see your point about the falling into the lux/pootrol tracks with a increase of width.
i might go the speedy rims , is it TJM that sell them ?
or i would love to cut up my current rims offset and maybey beadlocks if i could afford . anyone got a estimate price on this ?
thanks again guys.
Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 6:19 pm
by mrRocky
i am running 2" wheel spacers all round at the moment and as i have 5" of lift this helps with stability a fair bit but you need to check that they are tight every couple of hundred kms, and keep an eye on your wheel bearings. Mine were from 4wd usa and cost about $400 for 4 out of aircraft grade aluminium with new nuts. i run 33"s and still have 2" till i hit the leafs
Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 6:26 pm
by suzuki boy
I got a -15 off set rim from speedy rims for $48 each! Thats cheaper then the spacers and more legal and you have better peice of mind!
You can tell the difference even with that off set -30 would be way different!
Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 6:43 pm
by fool_injected
Don't wish to detract but I put my cracked pumpkin down to wheelspacers and offset (SOA was a contributing factor too Steve
)
Extra load (leverage) is put on the axle tubes causing the whole housing to flex. Eventually something has to give and in my case it was welds on the pumkin
Spacers have now been taken off
Just something to think about
Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 7:50 pm
by zookjedi
ive flopped my zook with soa and 2" spacers many atime and the housings are still straight and no broken welds.
in nsw you can run wheel spacers in comps nissan trials willowglen woodpecker tuff truck we rock .
yes they are illegal just like most modifed 4x4's getting around with half decent rubber including zooks on 31's
Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 8:31 pm
by bigzuk
ive got 15x8 speedy rims on mine with 31inch tyres. they are the -30 offset. cost me 55 bux each even here in tassie.
id buy rims over spacers anyday
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 6:57 am
by saffrett
this may sound dumb but is it the higher the (-) the more the stick out or is it (+) that sticks out more
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 9:28 am
by fool_injected
here ya go champ
http://www.speedy.com.au wrote: Understanding Offset
Fitting a set of wheels with the correct offset is most important. Yet, because there are two commonly used (but different) methods for measuring offset, much confusion reigns.
At Speedy Wheels we understand both the "backspace method" and the "centreline method", so a short explanation of each may assist you in selecting the correct offset wheels.
Backspace Method: Measure from the inside rim edge to the high point of the bolt hub. Distance "A" in millimetres.
Centreline Method: Measure the overall width of rim (Distance “Xâ€
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 5:15 pm
by saffrett
thanks