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BODY LIFT

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2004 11:12 pm
by Shark
Okay i know everyone is getting tired of all these lift questions but i spent 3 hours last night going through old posts and could not find the information i was chasing.

My questions are simple

1. 2" or 3" What is better i would probally limit myself to 33's.

2. Does it make the car unsafe??

3.How hard is it to do?? Days job?? Weekend job???


Thats pretty much it

Thanks
Marc
88 SWB MAVERICK

Re: BODY LIFT

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2004 11:21 pm
by bogged
www.gqpatrol.com theres a how to and answers there.

2inch will do 33's. 3inch would be better.

No - requires engineers though.

3/4 of a day we did 2 cars (sort of both at once)....

Shark wrote:My questions are simple

1. 2" or 3" What is better i would probally limit myself to 33's.

2. Does it make the car unsafe??

3.How hard is it to do?? Days job?? Weekend job???


Thats pretty much it

Thanks
Marc
88 SWB MAVERICK

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2004 11:24 pm
by Shark
How does it look with three inch and how does it drive??? Will it look silly with 31's on??

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2004 11:42 pm
by bogged
Shark wrote:How does it look with three inch and how does it drive??? Will it look silly with 31's on??


Personally 3inch body lifts look stupid regardless. U have to hack bullbars to match (otherwise the across bars on the bullbar are in the way of headlights), just a pain in the arse. They cause clunks and moans and stuff, Im pissing my body lift off, and fitting new body mounts.

How does it drive, no real difference, your not changing the suspension or anything.

IMHO, You should go with a good 3inch suspension lift. OME is good.

If you cant afford it, wait and do it properly. Its Well worth doing things right first time. Under $1000 will get you a 3inch suspension lift.

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2004 11:56 pm
by Shark
Yeah but everyone that i have called tells me that the lift isnt really a good idea in a swb because of the vibrations?? I dont knom who to believe!!!! :cry:

I want to lift my car enough so it doesnt bottom out on little stuff and looks good with 33's, THATS ALL!!!!

So what do ya think??
Marc

Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2004 12:04 am
by bogged
Shark wrote:Yeah but everyone that i have called tells me that the lift isnt really a good idea in a swb because of the vibrations?? I dont knom who to believe!!!! :cry:

I want to lift my car enough so it doesnt bottom out on little stuff and looks good with 33's, THATS ALL!!!!

So what do ya think??
Marc



Dude, mate had a 4inch lift in his shorty, no casters.. Some are better than others.

3inch should be fine. Again no warranty on that, but there are heaps of other GQs with 3/4/5/6inch lifts in shortys.

Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2004 12:06 am
by Shark
But what about the vibrations, dont wanna do damage to me ride, know of anyone in W.A. that can do it????

MArc

Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2004 12:10 am
by Shark
Anyone is Western austrlia do lifts good??

Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2004 1:05 am
by bogged
Shark wrote:But what about the vibrations, dont wanna do damage to me ride, know of anyone in W.A. that can do it????

MArc



If you get vibs, its not the kind to shake your car to bits. You can use Gearbox packers from ARB, lowers the thing, thus lowering the angle on the shaft. No Vibs then. thats IF you get them. 3inch lift you shouldnt.

Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2004 6:50 am
by turps
Have been told that some shorty's suffer from vibe probs with just a 1" lift. Mine has 2" no problems at all. Hottie Monster is getting a 3" susp kit this week, find out how he goes.
If you just want to run 33's 2"bl and 2"susp will do the job with good weel travel and little rubbing.

My body lift took about a 6 pack to install, but it was a hot day. The info on www.gqpatrol.com is good thats what I used pretty much.

Turps

Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2004 9:33 pm
by Screwy
Ive got a 2 inch body in my MQ,

took half a day by myself, makes little difference to driving performance, is cheap and yet gives u the clearance u need on the tyres. 2 inch means that u dont need to cut and extend things as there is enough give as long as u loosen the nessesary bits and pieces.

3 inch means the there are heaps of changes and problems with extensions etc.

Body roll makes little difference and will clear 33's for the right price.
Thats wat ur after right?

HTH

Screwy

Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2004 10:26 pm
by Area54
Like Bogged said, each rig is different. there may be weights knocked off the driveshaft, a uni with excessive end float, the shaft spline might have excessive wear in it, even tube runout on the shaft itself, these (and more) will all cause drive line vibes.

Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2004 11:38 pm
by Shark
So really for the small cost and the possibility to do it yourself a 2" lift kit would be an easy way to get some 33's under your car???

The spring lift sounds like a good idea also but if extra things need to be done i dont think i have spare funds to sort them out.

Really just wanted know wether a 2" body was a good idea. Didnt want to do it and then regret it.

Marc

Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2004 11:46 pm
by bogged
Shark wrote:So really for the small cost and the possibility to do it yourself a 2" lift kit would be an easy way to get some 33's under your car???

The spring lift sounds like a good idea also but if extra things need to be done i dont think i have spare funds to sort them out.

Really just wanted know wether a 2" body was a good idea. Didnt want to do it and then regret it.

Marc


2inch sus or body *should* do it.

To me, suspension is better option, but more $ to buy originally. How old is your current suspension, if its sagged out and shot, 2inch will look HEAPS more....

The extra things arent much anyway, caster bushes, and G'box packers, = 1/2 of FA.

You can do body OR suspension yourself.

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2004 1:47 am
by Shark
I think at this stage until i get a bit more experience working on cars i will go with the 2" body lift. I know the spring lift would be better but money and time to sort out the hassels are in short supply.

Thanks for the help

Marc

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2004 9:35 am
by bogged
Shark wrote:I think at this stage until i get a bit more experience working on cars


suspension would be easier than bodylift.

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2004 9:59 am
by MKPatrolGuy
bogged wrote:
Shark wrote:I think at this stage until i get a bit more experience working on cars


suspension would be easier than bodylift.


I agree suspension lift is really easy

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2004 7:12 pm
by Nor
If you're looking for optimal results, as in road handling and good looks too, go for 2" sus. lift, 2" body lift and 1.5-2" trimming.

You can fit 35" tires and look awesome.
For 33" you can forget bout the trimming.

I have that setup on my LWB, and my twin bro has it on his SWB, and they both run sweet as sugar, great flex, great road handling (make safe turns at 80-100 KM/H).

Check out the OME suspension kit, they are great.
As for the body lift, either get polyurethane blocks, or make ur own aluminum blocks.
Should take you 4-5 hours to fit them in a SWB.

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2004 10:58 pm
by Shark
U say suspension lift is easy but what about all the vibrations and stuff??? I dont want a day job turning into a tow to the mechanics to get sorted properly kinda thing.

Just a thought
Marc

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2004 11:21 pm
by MKPatrolGuy
Shark wrote:U say suspension lift is easy but what about all the vibrations and stuff??? I dont want a day job turning into a tow to the mechanics to get sorted properly kinda thing.

Just a thought
Marc


You are worrying miles too much about the vibes, if they are there then they wont be unbearable. You will be able to drive to ARB and get the Gearbox spacers without a problem

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2004 9:02 am
by turps
MKPatrolGuy wrote:
Shark wrote:U say suspension lift is easy but what about all the vibrations and stuff??? I dont want a day job turning into a tow to the mechanics to get sorted properly kinda thing.

Just a thought
Marc


You are worrying miles too much about the vibes, if they are there then they wont be unbearable. You will be able to drive to ARB and get the Gearbox spacers without a problem


A freind had vibes in his GQ ute when it got lifted, but they went away after a couple of days. He said something about the drive shaft just getting comfy with its new angles.

Start with the susp lift I ran ome 2" lift (ome coils / koni shocks) with 285/75R16 BFG muds (33") for 4yrs before the body lift got put in.
But would cost about $1000 I suppose ($200 for coils - $800 for shocks). These are only guessing you may get better prices.

Body lift will cost about $50 - 200 depending on where you get the bits from, or makes up the puc's.

Susp lift only will increase off-road ability, with clearance for 33"s.
BL onlywill allow you to run 33"s

Turps