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Front axel swap.
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 12:57 pm
by Borisovich
Hello.
Does anybody have pics of toyota front axel on feroza?
I'm interested in pictures of the steering box, panhard etc...
I know that Toyhatsu made such a mod, but can't find the pics.
If you e-mail them to me it would be grait!
mgodun@inbox.ru
or just give a link to url.
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 4:17 pm
by MightyMouse
Why not "PM" ToyHatsu directly ?
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 4:26 pm
by Borisovich
I sent him a PM, but he's not online for couple of days. And i'm in a hurry. I thought it would be faster to ask on board.
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 5:44 pm
by ferozamaniac
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 7:20 pm
by HotFourOk
Rocky diffs are 3.36... aren't Roza's 5.xx sumthing?
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 7:51 pm
by r0ck_m0nkey
HotFourOk wrote:Rocky diffs are 3.36... aren't Roza's 5.xx sumthing?
Indeed 5.285:1 actually
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 9:24 pm
by ferozamaniac
My mistake then
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 3:31 pm
by Borisovich
Thnx alot, ferozamaniac!
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 4:43 pm
by Gwagensteve
I wonder what happened when he put the Gwagen axled one in 4WD?
Gwagen's spin their front drive shaft "backwards" and if used with anything other than a Gwagen transfer, the front axle will turn backwards when in 4WD.A Gwagen has a MASSIVE transfer case that's also divorce mount - getting it into a Feroza would be a challenge.
I'm not aware of a "kit" to run a live axle. The only live axled feroza I have ever seen was Besty's which ran hilux, but also had a commodore V6 and auto, hilux steering box and other pretty major modifications. It was also quite tall.
When I have looked at the feasibility of live axle on a feroza it has always looked like the car needed to be too high IMHO.
Mightymouse's car, with increased track width, does prove that the front IFS can me made to travel well.
Steve.
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 5:26 pm
by MightyMouse
Whilst its sort of off topic, a live front axle seems to be a lot of work, without solving what I consider to be the major problem - gearing, and no rear locker.
I am just not convinced that its higher up than about No. 6 on the major to do list.
1/ Auto
2/ Gears
3/ Rear Locker
4/ Front locker
5/ More power - and that mostly for highway driving.
6/ live front ????? or long(er) travel IFS
I didn't do it in this order but in hindsight.....
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 8:22 pm
by pigletracing
check out the picks on pigletracing on pg2 of daihatsu form,it runs toyota bundera coil front with 25mm spacers to keep it as wide as the toyota fourunner coil rear, but I am now changing it to nissan GU Patrol front & rear
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 8:46 pm
by MightyMouse
I think the piglet is in a "slightly" different category to the rest of us - woo hoo !
I get nervous just looking at the pics.
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 10:13 pm
by pigletracing
no dont be nervise,you should come for a ride one day,you take it for a spin & you would love it,one day Ill be down in Melb for a comp.. whenever that might be,Ill have to PM you so you can have a try..for the little amt of $$$$ required to do the mods it was worth it..& she is enginered/registered to boot
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 10:20 pm
by ferozamaniac
Well i havent seen tha G wagen Feroza closely so as fas as i know he has the trasnfer of Feroza and swaped the engine with a Toyotta 2.7 litr. He says that know can work like a real 4x4 car.
Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 5:15 pm
by MightyMouse
That would be mindblowing, and its legal !!!!! I wondered when you mentioned going for a drive if it was on private property or the roads.
Perhaps there's hope for the mouse yet.
Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 5:19 pm
by Gwagensteve
ferozamaniac wrote:Well i havent seen tha G wagen Feroza closely so as fas as i know he has the trasnfer of Feroza and swaped the engine with a Toyotta 2.7 litr. He says that know can work like a real 4x4 car.
Well keep us posted about what happens when he puts it in 4WD
It should be fun to watch
Steve.
Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 5:50 pm
by MightyMouse
It would do impressive "digs" I am thinking
and also three sets of brakes - hydraulic, handbrake and 4WD.
Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 10:08 pm
by ljxtreem
Gwagensteve wrote:ferozamaniac wrote:Well i havent seen tha G wagen Feroza closely so as fas as i know he has the trasnfer of Feroza and swaped the engine with a Toyotta 2.7 litr. He says that know can work like a real 4x4 car.
Well keep us posted about what happens when he puts it in 4WD
It should be fun to watch
Steve.
http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/phpBB2/vi ... hp?t=91812
Flipped centre section
How else would you do it, without a Gwagon transfer
Seems like a lot of work
Mock
Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 10:26 pm
by MightyMouse
Wonder why GWagen Diffs specifically ?
Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 11:08 pm
by Gwagensteve
Because of the quality......
I'm guessing 5.7 something diff ratios and lockers, plus they're relatively narrow so easy to fit.
Flipping the diff centre would make it heavily foul the tie rod. I guess it's possible but, wow, that's a lot of work.... Merc don't do things by 1/2's so I guess the tubes wouldn't fall out
Steve.
Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 12:06 am
by MightyMouse
I suppose if you had them, that would be a start, but it seems an expensive base on which to start. Which side do they drive to ?
I just wonder why not something more "obvious" like lux stuff. For the weights involved would seem strong enough, Ratios and lockers available.
They also fit under.
Are lux's in Europe like GWagens here - rare ?
And BTW what's with the "G", has it been put out to pasture, or just on the not so important list ?
Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 5:23 am
by ferozamaniac
Here we have a lot of military Gwagen that are sold very low. Toyota Hilux with front and rear axle cant find (only if you buy the hole truck). But yes its a very strange how he did fit the GWAGEN axle. When i learnd about it i will inform you.
Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 10:07 am
by MightyMouse
Ok that explains the choice from an availablity side.
Will be interested to hear about the rest of it, and how the little challenges were solved.
Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 10:02 pm
by Toyhatsu
G'Day,
Nope, not dead yet. I haven't been here in a long while. I got a notice about a thread that I was watching years ago and found that there were PM's about axle swaping.
That is some OLD pics of me truck. It is still on the road and doing well every day. It now sits on 35's, is 3 linked in the front, 2.7L, dual xfer cases etc.
I did run the Toyota axles (5.71:1) and Daihatsu engine and transmission for years.
I'll get some piccies together and try not to be a stranger.
kent