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Hi Guys,

Been a while since i have been here. Been pretty busy with work and getting divorced, but that's another story best left unsaid.
Got myself a Maverick, pretty sure now it has a 2 inch lift, which is good, as my conversion would'nt have worked out as well without it.

Here's a couple pics.





Engine is an EL Fairmont 4.0L with Tickford head, and running EL XR6 ECU. Stainless steel extractors, running to a single 2 1/2" system

Still have a bit of sorting and tidying to do, but i am happy with it so far, albeit with a slight problem with the gear-change, which i think i can fix....well i hope so.

Cheers

Daz

Great work!!

How did you find getting the engine management working? Was there any complications with smartlock or anything?

Did you use a dellow kit to fit it?

Are they off the shelf extractors?

Looks good mate. I am very happy to see you managed to fit the standard airbox in where you did. I now know where it is going on mine as Im fitting it up. I am currnetly in the process of doing a 5.0 EFI windsor into my mav.

dansedgli wrote:Great work!!

How did you find getting the engine management working? Was there any complications with smartlock or anything?

Did you use a dellow kit to fit it?

Are they off the shelf extractors?

If i had've had the smartlock bypass module connected to the right Green/Violet wire it would've fired first go......oh well. Helps when u get proper instructions, and know the right pin numbers.

The only parts i got from dellow are the bellhousing and clutch plate. Those cockheads caused me to have to fit and re-fit the engine 4 times because they said i need a special clutch fork to make it all work, then tell me i just have to use the Nissan one. The slave mount was out of alignment as well!! They absolutely dont have a clue, and couldn't engineer a piss-up in a brewery.

Extractors are 6 into 1 and built by me, as were the engine mounts, dellow ones were sh1t.



Mattsluxtruck, I was thinking of doing the 5.0l windsor, but decided on the easier option, and i can always turbo it later. Standard airbox has had the arse cut out of it, to make it fit. but you can't tell. I am yet to connect to to the fresh air inlet from the guard.


Cheers

Daz

thats great work there, im still waiting for someone to fit a BA turbo motor into a GQ

i was thinkin more along the lines of a ba e gas motor and turbo that

GQ4.8coilcab wrote:thats great work there, im still waiting for someone to fit a BA turbo motor into a GQ

Thanks, I'm pretty sure BA Turbo wont happen, as the BA sump is huge, and without a huge lift-kit, and aftermarket EMS, it'll never work. The ford I6 feels way more responsive than the old pushrod nissan motor, i'd go so far as to say it feels like twice the torque.
I have a couple issues with the ISC to fix and get the timing right and i'll be happy. The second-hand gearbox with supposedly 80000kms, feels like there is something stuck inside, as it is hard to find some gears sometimes ( and, no, before you think it, the clutch is working perfectly ).

Cheers

Daz

Looks great, very neat conversion from what i can see. LURVE the extractors they look sh!t hot, Keep up the good work

Dazzle wrote:as the BA sump is huge, and without a huge lift-kit,

Um no its not.
If you can fit an EA-AU motor in then a BA motor will fit as well. It can even use the same engine mounts.

Ive got one sitting in my EA at the moment.

Someone put your exhaust on the wrong side. Silly Ford.

ford uses the right side (no pun intended) its holden and nissan that have it backwards

Mine goes on both sides

My Ford goes on both sides too!
I must admit you are 100% right about Dellow now days. I bought a complete kit and the only parts of it I used without throwing them out and making new ones or modifying them heaps to work are the bellhousing and the clutch plate.
They do not even have the brains to tell you what thread they tap the slave cylinder attachment ect out to. Makes it difficult to get bolts!
When I questioned them on it particually with the throwout bearing adaptor I was told "its your car that is wrong , we dont make mistakes"
Arse pains to deal with nowdays.

how much did the dellows kit cost? i want to put a windsor 5l in my gq but no one makes shaft extensions, bell house adapters etc for the ford motor :(

$1045 for the windsor into GQ. The bellhousing , clutch plate and spigot bush is good. The rest is crap. So far it seems to be a pretty easy conversion if you are switched on and mechanically minded.

hmmm, for 1000 id have hoped it came with a shaft extension and a bellhousing adaptor ... as these parts seem the most time consuming to make

It is a complete new bellhousing. Therefore no adaptor or shaft extension is required. The input shaft goes direct into the clutch as per normal.
Physically putting the motor to the box is all straight exchange and bolt up.

mattsluxtruck wrote:It is a complete new bellhousing. Therefore no adaptor or shaft extension is required. The input shaft goes direct into the clutch as per normal.
Physically putting the motor to the box is all straight exchange and bolt up.

Does not get any easier than that. Make sure you check clearences between your input shaft and crank. Also use the 3 finger pressure plate.

LudaCris

Why use the 3 finger plate? I have put an EL XR8 HD one in mine which is a diaphram clutch and it all seems like its going to work.
We did have some spaceing issues with the thrust race sticking too far out. But throwing away the dellow spacer and extending the fork ball by 12mm fixed that right up.

Who engineered yours Dazzle? Did you have any probs?

mattsluxtruck wrote:$1045 for the windsor into GQ. The bellhousing , clutch plate and spigot bush is good. The rest is crap. So far it seems to be a pretty easy conversion if you are switched on and mechanically minded.

they make a kit to suit the auto?

mattsluxtruck wrote:It is a complete new bellhousing. Therefore no adaptor or shaft extension is required. The input shaft goes direct into the clutch as per normal.
Physically putting the motor to the box is all straight exchange and bolt up.

hmm thats awsome will have to look into the dellows kit, hopefully tho the ford flywheel will take my safari clutch

mattsluxtruck wrote:Why use the 3 finger plate? I have put an EL XR8 HD one in mine which is a diaphram clutch and it all seems like its going to work.
We did have some spaceing issues with the thrust race sticking too far out. But throwing away the dellow spacer and extending the fork ball by 12mm fixed that right up.

Maybe by spacing you have solved the problem but by using the old 3 finger we did not have to modify anything and it all works perfectly. With the diaphram clutch it would not unclamp.

LudaCris

mattsluxtruck wrote:Who engineered yours Dazzle? Did you have any probs?

Dellow tried to engineer it, i re-did their fuck-ups. As i previously mentioned the clutch slave mount was out of alignment. I modded the original nissan clutch fork for a closer to the pivot push point. I have since found out that the GU Patrol uses a slightly larger master cylinder, so when i get enthused to pull the motor out, i will fix the clutch operation up to perfection.

I have an adjustable push-rod, which is adjusted right up. When i fit larger master, then i can slacken it off a bit, and then the throw-out bearing wont be riding the diaphragm at all.

There are two types of pressure plates for fords, a high and low diaphragm. I originally got a low one( for free from the guys i bought gearbox off). This was a big part of the problem i had, but dellow were absolutely no help whatsoever!!!

I have a slight gearbox issue atm,(not going into gear as easy as it should) as i had to do an auto to manual conversion, as i was told by the dellow tools that i could get an auto b/h, then get told when i went to pick it up, that they dont make an auto one. man i was fuming!!!! I wanted a manual, but the car i bought was a good deal so i thought bugger it, have an auto.

Had a play with the timing and seems to be running much better and not choking when u boot it. No trouble spinning the tyres in the dry in 1st and 2nd, wet weather should need a gentle right foot. Will get engine looked at soon, have to finish tidying up wiring and fit new seats and carpet.

Mattsluxtruck, if you would like to come around and check my efforts, or would like some help with yours, give us a buzz.


Cheers

Daz

Ive been thinking of doing this conversion later down the track, but i will want to be going a auto at the same time. Does anyone make a adaptor to mount the GQ transfer case to the ford auto or will i have to adapt a C4 auto to the engine and get a C4 to GQ transfer adaptor?

MARKx4 wrote: Does anyone make a adaptor to mount the GQ transfer case to the ford auto or will i have to adapt a C4 auto to the engine and get a C4 to GQ transfer adaptor?

A quick check on Marks4wd, revealed what i thought, nothing is made for the ford auto.

If you really want to use this combination, then u will have to make your own adaptor. I am pretty sure it could be done, but how much do you want to spend??? Marks adaptors are all around the $1000 mark, so if he had enough demand then he would make a pattern and do the ford stuff.

He does the chev and holden bits, as i guess they are the most common, and fairly popular. From what i have seen, it is a bit of a squeeze to put a holden or chev V8 in a patrol, which is why i went for the ford six, which is pretty powerful for the size, and alot more performance parts available for it, compared to the Nissan I6.

Cheers

Daz

hmmm, i have a few problems with doing this, there are some obvious benifits to running the windsor block though. what ecu are you guys running because its obvious that the ford one wont work properly, was thinking of a wolf 3d or something along those lines, also ancillarys did they all fit ok?

The Ford ecu will work fine with some rejigging. It is only a few inputs you have to fool. I will look at doing a build up on mine here. Is it ok to put it in this section but?