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as above

ask 2dextreme he's the man

If you are mig welding it you just need the right wire, Lincoln make a good one for Bis 80.

You can weld it using just plain old mig wire, depends on the application.

Cheers

Depends what grade of Bisalloy you're using, Bis80 can be welded without having to use special MIG wire or gas and can be easily welded to mild steel if needed. I think it's 400 grade and above that you need to start looking at changing your gas and wire. I'm not sure how you'd go using a stick to weld it though, all the stuff I've been involved with has been based around MIG welding.

Be really nice to Gwagensteve, he might be able to point you in the right direction.

low hydrogen (spelling) rods and pre heat for stick.

mickyd555 wrote:as above

may have been more hepfull to add things like ......

Thickness of material & grade

application of the finished product

&

Most importantly what sort of welder you have or would like to use......

but we get ..... as above





so my answer to your question .........

how do you weld Bizalloy?


is......












with a welder

jav wrote:low hydrogen (spelling) rods and pre heat for stick.

I agree, Thats what i do and use here out at work, should also heat it up when using a Lincoln or a plain old mig, helps with the peno

At my old work we never did any thing special for welding bisalloy 360 or hardox 500.

Just ran the welder a little hotter. Never had a failure. Again as a bash plate I am guessing for the patrol, just weld as per usual.

V8Patrol wrote:

mickyd555 wrote:as above

may have been more hepfull to add things like ......

Thickness of material & grade

application of the finished product

&

Most importantly what sort of welder you have or would like to use......

but we get ..... as above





so my answer to your question .........

how do you weld Bizalloy?


is......












with a welder

bubs wrote:At my old work we never did any thing special for welding bisalloy 360 or hardox 500.

Just ran the welder a little hotter. Never had a failure. Again as a bash plate I am guessing for the patrol, just weld as per usual.

thank you

For bisalloy 80:

grind 1 to 2 mm from flame cut surfaces

preheating area should extend a minimum of 75mm on either side of the weld, more if preheating with a hand held heater

preheat - 50* to 75* for 3 to 12mm thickness, 75* to 100* for 12 to 19mm
the temp should be measured 75mm away from the joint

keep tip of gas flame at least 50mm away from the plate when preheating

use low hydrogen electrodes

it is necessary to restrict heat input during welding so do not use heavy runs or weaving - a number of smaller runs is better than a single heavy run

the maximum interpass temp is 150* for 3 to 12mm thickness, 180* for 12 to 19mm

Unless you already have the bissa alloy I would just go for standard steel sheet for a bash plate. Its not like you are dragging your arse over shit every minute of the day.

LudaCris

ludacris wrote:Unless you already have the bissa alloy I would just go for standard steel sheet for a bash plate. Its not like you are dragging your arse over shit every minute of the day.

LudaCris

why do you say that Chris? and if said bizalloy was 'at the right price' would you say otherwise?

Biz plate is really heavy...... i would use mild steel, at least it has some give, and wont be so harsh on the chassie and stuff

ludacris wrote:Unless you already have the bissa alloy I would just go for standard steel sheet for a bash plate. Its not like you are dragging your arse over shit every minute of the day.

LudaCris

Your right he is hopefully not going to drag it every day but when he does it will slide over alot eaiser than your standard belly plate will.

yeah but the way mickyd drives he needs his truck made out of it

ok, so i looked up the weight of Bisalloy

http://www.bisalloy.com.au/files/Techma ... 0Sizes.pdf

and the weight of 250 grade plate

http://www.onesteel.com/images/db_image ... %20250.htm

for 6mm plate i got the following

Bisalloy = 47.08 kg/sq metre
mild steel = 49.1 kg/sq metre

I thought that bisalloy would be lighter, being an alloy and all. so correct me if im wrong the only downside i have seen so far is the welding process?? and now that kingy has pointed out that you just do it with a welder i think im set. eliteforce32 is going to stamp me some GU body panels out of Biz80 so thats great

am i right or cant i read graphs good

mickyd555 wrote:

ludacris wrote:Unless you already have the bissa alloy I would just go for standard steel sheet for a bash plate. Its not like you are dragging your arse over shit every minute of the day.

LudaCris

why do you say that Chris? and if said bizalloy was 'at the right price' would you say otherwise?

If you can get it at the right price then by all means go for it. What price can you get it at legend.

Ludacris