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gearbox swap info...

Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 9:59 pm
by avalanches
Hello chaps!!!!
new to this forum.

I've got a landcruiser Bundera (lj71) with a R151 gearbox behind a 2l-t engine, the gearbox has got unbelievable noisy and thinking about it, I want to up the gears a bit more so I go a bit faster and my fuel economy improves as well....

so I need some info about what high gear Toyota gearbox or (hopefully) 6 gear one would bolt to my engine or if not, what diffs I'm I able to fit.

My toyota is on 4 coil springs and has ( I think ) 4.88 diff ratios.

sorry about asking so much the first time but please help, I dont want to go driving for hours to find the wrong parts.

cheers

JC

Re: gearbox swap info...

Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 11:24 am
by toyrex
avalanches wrote:Hello chaps!!!!
new to this forum.

I've got a landcruiser Bundera (lj71) with a R151 gearbox behind a 2l-t engine, the gearbox has got unbelievable noisy and thinking about it, I want to up the gears a bit more so I go a bit faster and my fuel economy improves as well....

so I need some info about what high gear Toyota gearbox or (hopefully) 6 gear one would bolt to my engine or if not, what diffs I'm I able to fit.

My toyota is on 4 coil springs and has ( I think ) 4.88 diff ratios.

sorry about asking so much the first time but please help, I dont want to go driving for hours to find the wrong parts.

cheers

JC
On the Toyota manifactures plate 5th line down it will have
R151 G###
If you let me know the G code numbers We will know what the diff ratio is
What size tyres do you have fitted
In my 4runner I have fitted the R151 and modified the over drive from 17% to 30%. I have a V6 conversion that will handle the extra overdrive

Adrian

Re: gearbox swap info...

Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 3:01 pm
by gotoy
toyrex wrote:
avalanches wrote:Hello chaps!!!!
new to this forum.

I've got a landcruiser Bundera (lj71) with a R151 gearbox behind a 2l-t engine, the gearbox has got unbelievable noisy and thinking about it, I want to up the gears a bit more so I go a bit faster and my fuel economy improves as well....

so I need some info about what high gear Toyota gearbox or (hopefully) 6 gear one would bolt to my engine or if not, what diffs I'm I able to fit.

My toyota is on 4 coil springs and has ( I think ) 4.88 diff ratios.

sorry about asking so much the first time but please help, I dont want to go driving for hours to find the wrong parts.

cheers

JC
On the Toyota manifactures plate 5th line down it will have
R151 G###
If you let me know the G code numbers We will know what the diff ratio is
What size tyres do you have fitted
In my 4runner I have fitted the R151 and modified the over drive from 17% to 30%. I have a V6 conversion that will handle the extra overdrive

Adrian
How did you modify the overdrive. Marks adaptors have a kit, but a bit $$

Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 8:06 pm
by avalanches
I've got 4.78 diffs and 31" tyres

Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 10:52 pm
by toyrex
I do not know what you have in the UK in the landcruiser range

HZJ80 10x41 4.1 ratio
HZJ75 9x37 4.111
100 10x43 4.3

The front diff out of these are hi pinion to fit the front of the Bundy
Some Bundera,s in Aus also have 4.556 ratio
I am in the prosess, with drawings of fitting the T56 6 speed onto the Hilux gear drive transfer case, I have already done the bell housing to fit T56 onto the Commodore V6
5th and 6th gear are both over drive

Re: gearbox swap info...

Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 10:58 pm
by toyrex
How did you modify the overdrive. Marks adaptors have a kit, but a bit $$[/quote]

I fitted the over drive gears from a Dyna truck
I did this of my own research

Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 2:08 am
by avalanches
the plate sais:

C/TR/A/TM 3H4 FG40 G145 R150F

tire size 31"

Re: gearbox swap info...

Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 5:13 am
by gotoy
toyrex wrote:How did you modify the overdrive. Marks adaptors have a kit, but a bit $$
I fitted the over drive gears from a Dyna truck
I did this of my own research[/quote]

Yes I too looked at marks, too muchb $$.

Can you give further details on your mod?

Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 1:07 pm
by toyrex
avalanches wrote:the plate sais:

C/TR/A/TM 3H4 FG40 G145 R150F

tire size 31"

Diff G145 4.875 ratio 4 spider LSD
Gearbox R150F 3.86 1st gear and 17% over drive

Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 5:07 pm
by avalanches
yep, tahts the one, now, what's the next step?
what could I do to get lower rpms?

Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 7:37 pm
by toyrex
avalanches wrote:yep, tahts the one, now, what's the next step?
what could I do to get lower rpms?

with 4.556 diffs engine revs should be ABOUT 3400
4.3 3100
4.1 2850

also 33" tyres

Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 10:15 pm
by avalanches
is there any toyota 4.1 or 4.3 diffs?
if so, which one could I fit, would it require a lot of mods?

thanks
J

Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 11:06 pm
by toyrex
refer to my second reply
I know of 15 different ratios for the Hilux and Bundera around the world
With ratios from 3.07 through to 6.8 all are a direct bolt in

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 3:21 am
by Tapage
I thought your option it's increasing the tire size or downward the axle ratio ..

You have factory Toy at least 4.11 and 4.56 ..

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 8:19 pm
by avalanches
thanks for all the info, I'll see what i can get on it then

cheers

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 8:33 pm
by avalanches
yo, toyrex, what toyota model has the the diffs I'm looking for, for example, 3.8, 4.1, etc?

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 11:06 pm
by Tapage
You are searching for LJ-70 with 2L engine, usually those come here with 4.88 anycase check the info in the firewallplate ..

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 2:19 am
by gotoy
Tapage wrote:You are searching for LJ-70 with 2L engine, usually those come here with 4.88 anycase check the info in the firewallplate ..
My LJ70 started life with a 2L engine. I can confirm the diffs are 4.88 ratio.

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 3:33 am
by gotoy
avalanches wrote:yo, toyrex, what toyota model has the the diffs I'm looking for, for example, 3.8, 4.1, etc?
If you are looking for 4.1 diffs you need to find a landcruiser fitted with the 1KZ engine. LJ78 was my halfcut model, with 1KZ, R151F and 4.1 diffs.

I have the 4.1 diff ratio parts spare....pity you are so far away. Although I put on the new axles I kept the ratio at original 4.88.

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 9:42 am
by avalanches
thanks 4 ur help mate!!!

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 12:46 pm
by gotoy
avalanches wrote:thanks 4 ur help mate!!!
There's a small site operating in UK, a few of them have lj70's

blessedarethefew.com

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 1:54 pm
by Guy
gotoy wrote:
Tapage wrote:You are searching for LJ-70 with 2L engine, usually those come here with 4.88 anycase check the info in the firewallplate ..
My LJ70 started life with a 2L engine. I can confirm the diffs are 4.88 ratio.
A 2l and a 2l-t are a bit different .. I would assume your 2l would have a g52 or a W series box.

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 4:21 pm
by gotoy
love_mud wrote:
gotoy wrote:
Tapage wrote:You are searching for LJ-70 with 2L engine, usually those come here with 4.88 anycase check the info in the firewallplate ..
My LJ70 started life with a 2L engine. I can confirm the diffs are 4.88 ratio.
A 2l and a 2l-t are a bit different .. I would assume your 2l would have a g52 or a W series box.
Yes. Original configuration was 2L, g52 and 4.88s. I then changed out the G52 to 5sp R151F and later a 2LT. Lately installed 1KZ and R151F, although to date I kept the 4.88 diffs.

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 5:30 pm
by mudbasher2
toyrex, How much stronger is the t56 over the dyna box

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 8:06 pm
by toyrex
avalanches wrote:yo, toyrex, what toyota model has the the diffs I'm looking for, for example, 3.8, 4.1, etc?

As I said before I do not know the ratios of your Toyota range in the U.K.
In Aus a 4.1 hi pinion to suit the front of your Bundera would come out of the front of a 80 series Landcruiser
4.1 for the rear would come out of a 2wd ute or a Hiace van
You will need to check with some wrecking yards or your Toyota dealer for a diff comparison chart etc

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 3:26 am
by gotoy
As stated above, lj series with 1kz manual engine. They were availablenin Europe, otherwise try the importers.

I have what you want, but I am a long way away.