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Noise when turning left?
Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 8:32 pm
by Buggerific
Hey,
I've just started getting a bit of a moaning noise as i turn slightly left. I have found that grease is leaking out of the left, i guess, ball joint.
Not sure if thats the right name for it but the big silver ball on the end of the axle.
I really should get a workshop manual so if anyone knows somewhere that sells them that would be awesome.
So yeah, Would loss of grease cause this noise and how soon should I be getting that fixed up?
Cheers
Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 8:36 pm
by MightyMouse
Go to
www.warfs.org I think there are PDFs available for download
Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 10:14 pm
by HotFourOk
Isn't that the CV??
Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 1:01 pm
by SimplyPV
yep... cv's dying on you. have fun with that.
Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 7:52 pm
by murcod
Wouldn't it be a live axle model (ie. no CV'S)? I think I know the part you're talking about, the inlaws GQ is the same sort of set up with the hubs on the end of the solid axle- on a huge ball/ socket type join..... How's that for highly technical!
Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 11:16 pm
by Buggerific
Yeah, did a little research...
No it's not a cv because yes it is the live axle version.
So I think what I'm actually talking about is the steering knuckle!
As far as i can tell there seems to be various seals in there which I should probably replace and if I do them very soon there may not be much more to it.
If i left it i would probably end up with more issues and a more expensive solution...
Any ideas how close i might be in my thinking?
And yes, that website was great for those manuals, cheers.
Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 5:17 pm
by HotFourOk
Ah first I've heard of a Rocky not having CVs
If you think your car does not have a CV due to it being live axle... I HIGHLY RECOMMEND taking it to a mechanic for him to fix it. At least he knows what he is doing.
Oh, and on eBay, what a crook, he is selling CV joints for Solid model Rocky's!!! What a con artist!
Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 5:28 pm
by RockyF75
Its a leaking hub seal probly, must have leaked ALOT to be making noises. I dont think there's a 4x4 on the road (that gets used offroad) without a leaking hub seal. Dirt n crap gets in them and they leak.
If solid axles don't have CV's, WHAT THE HELL BROKE HERE!!!
The only thing I can think you meant murcod, is CV boots, or covers. Solids don't have them cause the CV's all encased in the housing.
Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 6:02 pm
by MightyMouse
Well technically - some solid axle systems use universal joints but most have CV's. regardless of live axle or IFS
Its a minor technical thing called steering that makes some form of "bendable" coupling a prerequisite.
Still I suppose we could all just drive in straight lines ( cue Silverchair )
Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 8:38 pm
by murcod
I meant the part that can be seen externally leaking grease wouldn't be a "CV joint". As the pic posted shows the CV's are inside and can't be seen.
What is the proper name for the ball joint/ steering hub on the end of a live axle?
Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 8:42 pm
by MightyMouse
"knuckle" ? not try to insult anybody.....
Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 9:30 pm
by Buggerific
Well I got the term "steering knuckle" from the workshop manual for my model (F75).
It seems that the part that is the steering knuckle is the boxy part that sits around the big ball at the end of the knuckle.
There is a driveshaft as well as a steering knuckle spindle and some other smaller parts such as seals and the like.
It's not leaking out of the hub, it's leaking out from behind the wheel, so when you're looking at that big ball on the end of the axle it's now covered in grease instead of being clean and shiny.
From the diagram I found in the manual it looks more likely to be the oil seals at the back of the assembly.
If you're interested it's in this section of the manual:
http://www.warfs.org/manuals/F70_F75_F7 ... ension.pdf
Cheers
Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 9:35 pm
by MightyMouse
Not a Rocky expert ( actually not an X spurt on anything ) but thats the grease that lubricates the CV leaking out, and of course letting god knows what back in.
If its stuffed your CV then thats not good news. Don't ignore it, its not going to get any better.
Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 9:55 pm
by Gwagensteve
Yep, I vote the oil has washed the grease out of the CV and it's now worn, causing the noise.
Steve.
Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 10:12 pm
by Buggerific
Well thats really not the most fantastic news then...
Guess I'll have to rip it apart over the weekend and check it out then.