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A girl I work with has asked me to come and check out a 2003 dual cab hilux (diesel) for her in a couple of hours. Any hilux-specific things I should be checking?

OK - found this, but not much help.

http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/phpBB2/vi ... hp?t=95267

Any typical problems with this model? I believe it is a 3.0D (na).

just thinking off the top of my head about whats wrong with mine and what to look for

service history - need oil and filter change every 5000km
rust around the windscreen,
5th gear whine - lost my 5th gear at 120,000km, mate lost his at 105,000km
splits in the airbox-motor hose
driveline oil leaks
wheel alingment - goes out very easily on a ifs lux
injector pump and injectors - have they ever been done
timing belt - replace at 150,000km if not earlier
signs of beach work

hope that is of some help

daveo wrote:just thinking off the top of my head about whats wrong with mine and what to look for

service history - need oil and filter change every 5000km
rust around the windscreen,
5th gear whine - lost my 5th gear at 120,000km, mate lost his at 105,000km
splits in the airbox-motor hose
driveline oil leaks
wheel alingment - goes out very easily on a ifs lux
injector pump and injectors - have they ever been done
timing belt - replace at 150,000km if not earlier
signs of beach work

hope that is of some help

Thanks - that was a big help.

This one has 116000km, asking price is $22k. Seems to be quite tidy all over, except that it has obviously spent some time on the beach. I couldn't find any body rust (or bog), but the bullbar, a-arms and gearbox crossmember is a bit scaly, and the exhaust is looking a bit rusty. It isn't too far gone at the moment - but would need a thorough treatment with rust converter and fishoil/lanoline ASAP.

Would you touch it, and how much would you offer.

i honestly couldnt say if it was a good price or not as i have not looked at the market for years. i purchased my 1998 3.0d lux with 45,000km, winch, bullbar in early 2002 for about $29000 (i think).

i use mine almost solely for beach work and while the exhaust is farked and a few little bits of surface rust in stone chips and generally shitty paint work, i have no rust issues, but it was professionally rustproofed from day 1. apart from the gearbox and a minor brake issue(which was the fault of toyota dealership servicing) i have not had any problems with it at all. suits my uses well, which is beach fishing, touring, camping, not hardcore wheeling or towing a large trailer (which they suck at) etc.

i reckon the key is the service history. being indirect injection they soot up the oil quickly and need to be changed every 5000km.

http://www.redbookasiapacific.com/au/
This may be some help also Q? when gearbox and diff oils were last changed and i think they are a 10 000k service interval but i'd do it every 5 000k (What i write on lube stickers at work) and for a 15 000k service interval go 7 500K

Sic Lux wrote:http://www.redbookasiapacific.com/au/
This may be some help also Q? when gearbox and diff oils were last changed and i think they are a 10 000k service interval but i'd do it every 5 000k (What i write on lube stickers at work) and for a 15 000k service interval go 7 500K

Cheers mate - but I had already looked there - $17-19k private sale. I think $22k is cheap for a dealer in Perth.

The sharks at the car yard said the log books have been "stolen". So NFI about the sevice history. Which makes me worry.

Why would they steel log books and not the car i'd say there probaly wasn't much stamed in it so they went missing If you could somehow get in contact with last owner could find out old rego number and where it was serviced to get history but Being a car yard don't think you'd have to much luck

With a hilux and no dealer books i would be a little wary. If there is considerable sign of beach work and no book then i would just steer clear, as hiluxs are really common, so there should be no difficulty finding one thats been well looked after.

ISUZUROVER wrote:

Sic Lux wrote:http://www.redbookasiapacific.com/au/
This may be some help also Q? when gearbox and diff oils were last changed and i think they are a 10 000k service interval but i'd do it every 5 000k (What i write on lube stickers at work) and for a 15 000k service interval go 7 500K

Cheers mate - but I had already looked there - $17-19k private sale. I think $22k is cheap for a dealer in Perth.

The sharks at the car yard said the log books have been "stolen". So NFI about the sevice history. Which makes me worry.

bulshit stolen

they hide the books on cars with no service history
Get the vin of the vehicle and ring toyota for a service history

duallux wrote:With a hilux and no dealer books i would be a little wary. If there is considerable sign of beach work and no book then i would just steer clear, as hiluxs are really common, so there should be no difficulty finding one thats been well looked after.

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Jes

I agrea. There are lots of these around for sale with Log Books. I wouldnt spend that much money on a second hand car with that many ks and no log books.

jessie928 wrote: bulshit stolen

they hide the books on cars with no service history
Get the vin of the vehicle and ring toyota for a service history

Exactly what I thought - you would think they would just fabricate the service history though...

Thanks for the suggestion, I have passed it on. But she has already decided to buy it (she managed to haggle a grand or two off the price).

It is a bit strange, from the chassis up the vehicle is perfect and doesn't look like it is been on the beach - it is only everything lower than the main chassis rails that has a nice coating of surface rust (and the odd bit of scale). It is almost as if the truck has been parked in a foot of salt water overnight.

She will be getting the whole truck rust converted and rust proofed as soon as she picks it up.

ISUZUROVER wrote:

jessie928 wrote: bulshit stolen

they hide the books on cars with no service history
Get the vin of the vehicle and ring toyota for a service history

Exactly what I thought - you would think they would just fabricate the service history though...

Thanks for the suggestion, I have passed it on. But she has already decided to buy it (she managed to haggle a grand or two off the price).

It is a bit strange, from the chassis up the vehicle is perfect and doesn't look like it is been on the beach - it is only everything lower than the main chassis rails that has a nice coating of surface rust (and the odd bit of scale). It is almost as if the truck has been parked in a foot of salt water overnight.

She will be getting the whole truck rust converted and rust proofed as soon as she picks it up.

Sounds like a Water Damaged vehicle to me. It prob came from newcastle. Doig a V check in WA may not give you any interstate history. It may come up clean. Most of the 6000+ Vehicles that went through Pickles in Newcastle and were repairable writeoff's have ended up Interstate.

RUFF wrote:
Sounds like a Water Damaged vehicle to me. It prob came from newcastle. Doig a V check in WA may not give you any interstate history. It may come up clean. Most of the 6000+ Vehicles that went through Pickles in Newcastle and were repairable writeoff's have ended up Interstate.

Yeah, could be - will pass the info on. It is/was for sale at a new car dealer (according to them it was a trade-in) - on a KIA!!! .

Should also add that it seemed in perfect nick mechanically, didn't blow even a hint of smoke under and circumstances, no gearbox whine. Engine was surprisingly growly/noisy under heavy engine breaking though - is that normal?