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Bigger plenum chamber on a 1hd-t
Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 9:03 am
by mud4b
hi
what are your thoughts on making a larger plenum chamber to go on a 80 series 1hd-t engine? does it really make a difference on a diesel turbo engine? i have to change the manifold anyway to fit my water to air i/c.
i know they need to be a certain size compared to the capacity of the engine.
i was thinking of making one out of 3" ally tube, all flowed of course.
cheers mark
Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 12:49 pm
by bj on roids
Big snorkel, big filter and good airflow are going to be the keys, good clean, cool air. stock plenum should be fine.
Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 12:54 pm
by mud4b
bj on roids wrote:Big snorkel, big filter and good airflow are going to be the keys, good clean, cool air. stock plenum should be fine.
you miss the point, i need to change it to fit the i/c anyway...
plus big snorkel, big filter, big airflow, into a restricted intake manifold sort of defeats the purpose of the first things.
just got a std manifold for a 1hd-t from my wreckers for $80.. going under the chop now before i got to go..
Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 2:12 pm
by dow50r
size doesnt matter within reason...1 inch tube will be a bit restrictive... 4 inch will be a little too much space to fill and you will get lag...just make minimal turns for air to negotiate...i wish i knew u wanted a manifold...i have a 1hz one u could have owned...
Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 7:13 pm
by dumbdunce
dow50r wrote:size doesnt matter within reason...1 inch tube will be a bit restrictive... 4 inch will be a little too much space to fill and you will get lag...just make minimal turns for air to negotiate...i wish i knew u wanted a manifold...i have a 1hz one u could have owned...
got any 1HD-FT manifolds? tyhinking about going down this road when I intercool, to make the hole face forwards rather than sideways at the top, but not real keen on hacking into a potentially expensive manifold in case it all comes unstuck.
Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 8:04 pm
by rover1
made this for my patrol, got to make another now cause a cant fit a water to air cooler in. works a treat, cant begin to tell you the difference it made to the responsiveness of the engine, really snappy power. i thought i'd loss some boost but beleive it or not it gained .5psi. i did change the point of the boost pressure line but dont think that would make a higher reading.
stock berrma diesel setup.
starting making the new one
almost
stock vs modifed
done
this also works great, 20psi, highmount, unreal to drive, has noticable lag.
what was the question again?
Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 11:12 pm
by mud4b
dow50r wrote:size doesnt matter within reason...1 inch tube will be a bit restrictive... 4 inch will be a little too much space to fill and you will get lag...just make minimal turns for air to negotiate...i wish i knew u wanted a manifold...i have a 1hz one u could have owned...
yup still thinking 3" log style.
mate still keen on the manifold you have too, mate needs one.
Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 11:31 pm
by Paul Smith
rover1, I like you work. how does it go.
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 1:25 am
by Tapage
Rover1 .. congrat it looks like very impresive job !
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 11:18 pm
by dow50r
Its a pity the cruiser manifolds cant be done like that...we have injecter lines over the plenum..ive also been thinking of a 3 inch front entry manifold for the purpose of minimising piping length and intercooling ... the 03 hdfte 100 series has a power steer reservoir off to the side of the manifold instead of up front...having a front inlet also reduces heat soak..
Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 6:18 pm
by hulsty
log style manifolds are crap, feeding from one end gives all kinds of wierd air velocity distributions in the manifold, that triangular style one on the patrol is the goods! you will have a much more even air velocity distribution to each runner giving a engine that will be more balanced, responsive and POWERFULL!!
as for volume, all the books i've got are on N/a motors, they indicate plenum volume to start off with should be approximately the engine volume then work from there.
Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 6:43 pm
by rover1
anyone got a picture of the engine bay on a 80ser. i'm sure there is a way around the injector lines.
goes goes way better with this manifold, i want more, therefore i need more fuel, more boost, less heat.....therefore intercooler must fit in there, looking at going something like what is on kevy notts gq
Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 12:59 am
by Tapage
1HD-FT
Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 9:06 am
by dow50r
HDFT-E that is, but close enough...there are another 3 pipes behind the crossover that do thesame as the 3 you can see in this piccy...the hdft crossover goes straight over the middle and the tappet cover hump is at the rear of the motor.
Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 2:48 am
by Tapage
1HD-T
Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 9:33 am
by Sic Lux
just a thought, Why not make a 2pc one like on the ford Au for example using the std 1hd-t for the lower peice and custom top peice and just bolts together
Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 1:10 pm
by mud4b
Sic Lux wrote:just a thought, Why not make a 2pc one like on the ford Au for example using the std 1hd-t for the lower peice and custom top peice and just bolts together
pic please?
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 10:35 am
by bj on roids
cmawwn hurry and do this
i want ur turbo kit
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 10:55 am
by mud4b
bj on roids wrote:cmawwn hurry and do this
i want ur turbo kit
the funny thing is what i want was posted up on here the other day for sale.. 4g... just dont have the money right now.. offered swaps but he never got back to me so i guess he not keen on a gu or hilux..
going to chop the manifold soon..
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 12:03 pm
by bj on roids
mud4b wrote:bj on roids wrote:cmawwn hurry and do this
i want ur turbo kit
the funny thing is what i want was posted up on here the other day for sale.. 4g... just dont have the money right now.. offered swaps but he never got back to me so i guess he not keen on a gu or hilux..
going to chop the manifold soon..
I saw that and thought it was a little high, for me at the moment too...
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 10:51 pm
by Sic Lux
mud4b wrote:pic please?
Not 1 Au or like manifold car at work today will get pic's as soon as one comes in, tried to search goggle images but came up with noting to show it right
Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 7:06 am
by Sic Lux