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Ok now I'm CONFUSED ??? HELP
Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 11:24 am
by terra88
Ok guys help me out,
As per a previous tread I was trying to pinpoint a noise in the front of my mav when either the hubs were locked in ,or the transfer put in 4h. When driven it made a funny rattle weird noise that sounded from the rhf but later sounded around the transfer ??
So now I decided to remove the front driveshaft to eliminate the transfer or c.v's etc. But now it wont make the noise at all ..
I just greased the unis and slip joint with no change in the noise and just felt the unis and seem ok ....
Any idea's ....
Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 11:37 am
by DanielS
is it mertalic(sp?), lower in the rpm range, when turning etc??
Daniels
edit, try neutralising the transfer box and free wheeling hubs, then spin the front drive shaft by hand, might be able to pick something up that way.
Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 12:41 pm
by terra88
no it does it all the time mainly over 30klms , turning doesn't matter , tried spinning driveshaft by hand and no noise.
its got me stuffed
Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 12:46 pm
by terra88
extra info .... didn't do it when I test drove it , and it took about 50klm of driving on the beach in 2wd but hubs locked to start making noise ....
bloody cars
Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 12:51 pm
by MUD CLUB
what lift? ive got a six and i cant drive with hubs locked 2wd or 4wd over 40-50ks dont know why just learnt to live with it
Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 1:10 pm
by terra88
MUD CLUB wrote:what lift? ive got a six and i cant drive with hubs locked 2wd or 4wd over 40-50ks dont know why just learnt to live with it
its a 4" lift or so I was told ....... what does yours do ??
Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 1:13 pm
by terra88
just checked by part numbers, it has superior engineering 4-5 inch lifted coils ...
Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 3:03 pm
by g60boy
mabie your front shaft is un balanced? just another idea to knock off the list
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Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 3:56 pm
by DanielS
have you check the level and quality of the oil in the transfer??
its hard to say exactly but if it took 50kms of driving i dought it would be due to the lift as this would be present from the get go. Maybe look at draining the oil in the transfer and look for stuff that shouldn't be there.
Just Mi2c
Daniels
Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 4:46 pm
by macca81
are your hubs locked in properly? if one or both are unlocked, or not locked all the way in, ya can get a rattle noise at times...
Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 5:59 pm
by terra88
macca81 wrote:are your hubs locked in properly? if one or both are unlocked, or not locked all the way in, ya can get a rattle noise at times...
yeh they were both locked properly and locked and unlocked a few times ... may need to rip out the c.v's just to check ...
Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 7:37 pm
by Woop
It COULD be the small needle roller bearings in the base of the stub axles... Does the slip-joint have any wear in it?
Nick
Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 7:42 pm
by nicksamaniac
my mq shorty used to do the same thing, 4h or 4L it rattled over 25 30klms, turns out it was my front uni joint, it felt tight but when i pressed out the race cups they were had it!, just an idea to check.
Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 8:06 pm
by terra88
Woop wrote:It COULD be the small needle roller bearings in the base of the stub axles... Does the slip-joint have any wear in it?
Nick
couldn't feel any wear in it, but the roller bearing you mention might be worth checking as it only seems to happen under stress from the transfer , may be rolling on a different area or sumthing ???
Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 8:07 pm
by terra88
nicksamaniac wrote:my mq shorty used to do the same thing, 4h or 4L it rattled over 25 30klms, turns out it was my front uni joint, it felt tight but when i pressed out the race cups they were had it!, just an idea to check.
mmm. well if anyone has a cheap front driveshaft for sale on the coast or brissy let me know , just another thing to eliminate ..
Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 11:19 pm
by GOT MUD
what about finding someones to borrow first then try it if it goes away then buy one or repair yours if its still there then you have not wasted money and have to look at something else
just an idea
Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 11:50 pm
by Nelso
MUD CLUB wrote:what lift? ive got a six and i cant drive with hubs locked 2wd or 4wd over 40-50ks dont know why just learnt to live with it
Your unis are running at different angles as you needed to retain your correct Castor, so your front driveshaft will run unbalanced. you can usually get away with up to a 4 inch lift but for a 6 inch lift you need some serious modifications to get rid of the vibrations at higher speeds. you can fit a double carden at the transfer end and rotate your swivel hubs or pumpkin so the front uni runs straight or you could cut and rotate your swivel hubs/pumpkin so both unis run the same angle which would probably have your pinion just about dragging in the dirt. Most people put up with the inconvenience of unlocking their hubs when they want to drive faster.
Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 1:10 pm
by terra88
Oh the joys of having modified 4bs hey ..... oh well as long as that is all it is and from what everyone has said it sounds like it ...
thanks all for the feedback ...
Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 9:11 pm
by xenith
my slip joint made this same noise till i changed it
Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 8:42 am
by terra88
might get another front driveshaft to to check it out ??