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Homebrew Co2 Air up system
Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 4:46 pm
by sanger
Hey all i was wondering if anyobe has made their own diy version of the powertank. Im in the process of trying to track down parts but am finding it difficult to get my hands on a used co2 welding bottle and a descent regulator that will output 150psi. Heres a link to a good write up.
http://www.stu-offroad.com/recovery/co2/co2-1.htm
Let me know if you can help me out.
Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 5:21 pm
by Madmac
it can be done, my old man did his own with an air liquide bottle, not sure where he bought the regulator
Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 7:31 pm
by spazbot
you can buy just the reg from airup in australia and use it on a std rental co2 bottle, owning your own bottle is more a hassel as very few places will fill it, you basically have to get very friendly with the local fire extinguisher mob and get them to fill it for ya
Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 9:11 pm
by sanger
yea getting one refilled isnt a drama i got a mate who owns a fire extinguisher shop. more concernec about regulator and bottle. anyone who has had experience please point me in the right direction.
Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 1:13 am
by Tapage
I use the bottle from Coca Cola here ..

and found the regulator in a local tools/welding shop ..
Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 8:33 am
by sanger
ok well i have conceded to just renting a bottle so that soughts out that problem but im still left trying to find a Co2 regulator that will have an output of 150 psi. All welding and homebrew regulators dont come close to 150 psi.
Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 8:58 am
by spazbot
did you look at the ones airup sell ???
you could also order one from the states...
http://www.offroadtuff.com/CO2Regulators.htm
the cheap one at $33 cant be to bad not sure if you will need to make an adapter for the aussie style cylinder fittings though
Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 4:29 pm
by longlux
sanger wrote:ok well i have conceded to just renting a bottle so that soughts out that problem but im still left trying to find a Co2 regulator that will have an output of 150 psi. All welding and homebrew regulators dont come close to 150 psi.
http://www.air-up.com/4wd.html
You will be far better of purchasing your own from air-up I looked at renting one & overall it is more costly.
I will be picking up an air-up bottle next week for my keg system
http://www.air-up.com/home_brew.html
I was talking to a guy in Perth at one of the brew shops last week there have been some bottles imported from China that were not to Oz Standards no one can fill them legally.
Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 9:15 pm
by sanger
renting will do me fine as i dont get out wheeling as often as i would like so shouldnt have to refill more than twice a year and rent on the bottle is $12/month so it shouldnt break the bank. As for the regulator i am looking at one from the states but am trying to find out what type thread they have on their co2 welding bottles to see if i can adapt to our bottles.
Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 7:43 am
by me3@neuralfibre.com
What pressure is in the bottles? From what I underswtand the co2 is liquid in the bottle giving much greater quantity. Hopefully this is less than the usual 3000psi in high pressure bottles.
Thanx
Paul
Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 8:12 am
by sanger
me3@neuralfibre.com wrote:What pressure is in the bottles? From what I underswtand the co2 is liquid in the bottle giving much greater quantity. Hopefully this is less than the usual 3000psi in high pressure bottles.
Thanx
Paul
Not sure about pressure in bottles but know when the valve is opened it comes out around 3000psi and i want to reg it down to about 150 psi.
I have found out the US thread size on the valves of their CO2 cylinders are CGA 320 so i have to see if there is and adapet to fit our type 30 thread. Anyone know where to start looking?
Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 9:59 am
by spazbot
you will be able to get an adapter from BOC or possible parts from enzed etc, ive used them before when making up converters for our nitrogen bottles
Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 2:59 pm
by turps
So how many litres of CO2 are in the air up system? Thats when its not compressed. As I have access to some 9lt cylinders that have 1800lts of air in them.
Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 9:04 pm
by sanger
i'll suss some stuff out during the week and see what i can come up with.