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converting 75series to coils?
Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 6:14 am
by hzj75
Just wondering what is the easiest way to convert a 75 series (ute) to coils springs
Ive read some people use a 80 series chassis and others just use 80 series diffs, which way is more effective and the cheapest??????
conversion
Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 9:58 am
by Cruza62
To save yourself the trouble of changing chasis i would go coil-overs, they have a smaller diameter than most coils so they can fit in tighter spots
Ben
Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 9:20 pm
by Thommo 73
im using 75 diffs with rangie arms/coil hats atm.....probley the cheapest way.
Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 5:20 am
by bushwalker
i got a 80 series chassis and am going to cut coilly bit off that chassis and weld onto mine prob more expensive but give you a wider track
and allows you to swap your lockers straight over
Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 5:21 am
by bushwalker
i got a 80 series chassis and diffs am going to cut coilly bit off that chassis and weld onto mine prob more expensive but give you a wider track
and allows you to swap your lockers straight over. cost all depends on what skills you have welding and the like
Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 8:26 am
by professor
I have done a kit for Rob the cashie we used coilovers and run the standard 75 chassis with 80 series diffs turned out 100% a good rig allround.
Chad
http://carl.outerlimits4x4.com/viewtopi ... 2&start=90
Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 1:17 pm
by midi73
bushwalker wrote:i got a 80 series chassis and diffs am going to cut coilly bit off that chassis and weld onto mine prob more expensive but give you a wider track
and allows you to swap your lockers straight over. cost all depends on what skills you have welding and the like
Wont be able to swap front locker from 75 to 80
Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 1:52 pm
by Shadow
midi73 wrote:bushwalker wrote:i got a 80 series chassis and diffs am going to cut coilly bit off that chassis and weld onto mine prob more expensive but give you a wider track
and allows you to swap your lockers straight over. cost all depends on what skills you have welding and the like
Wont be able to swap front locker from 75 to 80
sounds like a challenge
Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 3:32 pm
by dogbreath_48
midi73 wrote:
Wont be able to swap front locker from 75 to 80
I think later model 75's you can - i think they run the smaller front diff.
Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 3:48 pm
by Shadow
dogbreath_48 wrote:midi73 wrote:
Wont be able to swap front locker from 75 to 80
I think later model 75's you can - i think they run the smaller front diff.
they also had coils ^_^
Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 3:49 pm
by dogbreath_48
Shadow wrote:dogbreath_48 wrote:midi73 wrote:
Wont be able to swap front locker from 75 to 80
I think later model 75's you can - i think they run the smaller front diff.
they also had coils ^_^
No, 78's and 79's had coils. But i thought later 75's (1993-1997?) had a smaller front diff.
Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 4:16 pm
by midi73
dogbreath_48 wrote:Shadow wrote:dogbreath_48 wrote:midi73 wrote:
Wont be able to swap front locker from 75 to 80
I think later model 75's you can - i think they run the smaller front diff.
they also had coils ^_^
No, 78's and 79's had coils. But i thought later 75's (1993-1997?) had a smaller front diff.
Nope, only the coiled ones did.
Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 4:57 pm
by 75 cruser
chad put the coilovers front and rear in my truck and im more than happy with them, the truck drove better than when it had the leave springs in it, and going to the 80 series diffs you pick up a better track in the bush, the 75 diffs are to narrow and the truck will want to crab all the time on ruts in the bush, also going to 80 diffs you pick up bigger cvs and a stronger rear diff
im feeling the 75s are on a come back
rob
Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 6:08 pm
by midi73
75 cruser wrote:
chad put the coilovers front and rear in my truck and im more than happy with them, the truck drove better than when it had the leave springs in it, and going to the 80 series diffs you pick up a better track in the bush, the 75 diffs are to narrow and the truck will want to crab all the time on ruts in the bush, also going to 80 diffs you pick up bigger cvs and a stronger rear diff
im feeling the 75s are on a come back
rob
75 and 80 rear diffs are exactly the same except for the bearings that bolt it in. So strength is the same. I have an 80 centre in the rear of my middy.
100 rear centres though, now that is another story.
Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 7:44 pm
by Shadow
midi73 wrote:75 cruser wrote:
chad put the coilovers front and rear in my truck and im more than happy with them, the truck drove better than when it had the leave springs in it, and going to the 80 series diffs you pick up a better track in the bush, the 75 diffs are to narrow and the truck will want to crab all the time on ruts in the bush, also going to 80 diffs you pick up bigger cvs and a stronger rear diff
im feeling the 75s are on a come back
rob
75 and 80 rear diffs are exactly the same except for the bearings that bolt it in. So strength is the same. I have an 80 centre in the rear of my middy.
100 rear centres though, now that is another story.
i thaught 100 series rear diff is virtually the same aswell?
Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 9:11 pm
by bushwalker
my cruiser is a 92 and the locker no.s from arb match 75 and 80 series but i will find out soon for sure. the only 75's with the different centre to my knowledge where the early ones with the 2h ever since then they have been simular if not the same, thats the case with the three i've had anywayz 88, 98, 92
go the 75's
Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 11:26 pm
by midi73
Shadow wrote:midi73 wrote:75 cruser wrote:
chad put the coilovers front and rear in my truck and im more than happy with them, the truck drove better than when it had the leave springs in it, and going to the 80 series diffs you pick up a better track in the bush, the 75 diffs are to narrow and the truck will want to crab all the time on ruts in the bush, also going to 80 diffs you pick up bigger cvs and a stronger rear diff
im feeling the 75s are on a come back
rob
75 and 80 rear diffs are exactly the same except for the bearings that bolt it in. So strength is the same. I have an 80 centre in the rear of my middy.
100 rear centres though, now that is another story.
i thaught 100 series rear diff is virtually the same aswell?
No, much bigger and stronger. They are 4.3 ratio and have a different spline, cant remember the count. I think they are a bigger axle at the spline as well but cant remember for sure.
The front is the same as an 80 except that it is 4.3 ratio.
Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 7:38 pm
by professor
dogbreath_48 wrote:Shadow wrote:dogbreath_48 wrote:midi73 wrote:
Wont be able to swap front locker from 75 to 80
I think later model 75's you can - i think they run the smaller front diff.
they also had coils ^_^
No, 78's and 79's had coils. But i thought later 75's (1993-1997?) had a smaller front diff.
you are correct!
now back to the best option for the 75 with coils
Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 8:18 pm
by mac1cruz
Gday Chad just curious on what a rough estimate in dollars would be to do the conversion you did on Robs 75 parts/time?
Cheers Azza
Long live the 75 series
Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 8:32 pm
by cloughy
midi73 wrote:dogbreath_48 wrote:Shadow wrote:dogbreath_48 wrote:midi73 wrote:
Wont be able to swap front locker from 75 to 80
I think later model 75's you can - i think they run the smaller front diff.
they also had coils ^_^
No, 78's and 79's had coils. But i thought later 75's (1993-1997?) had a smaller front diff.
Nope, only the coiled ones did.
Wrong
Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 10:35 pm
by Evil 73
Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 10:53 pm
by midi73
cloughy wrote:midi73 wrote:dogbreath_48 wrote:Shadow wrote:dogbreath_48 wrote:
I think later model 75's you can - i think they run the smaller front diff.
they also had coils ^_^
No, 78's and 79's had coils. But i thought later 75's (1993-1997?) had a smaller front diff.
Nope, only the coiled ones did.
Wrong
No worries, I can be corrected, fill us all in on what is right then please.
Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 11:05 pm
by cloughy
midi73 wrote:cloughy wrote:midi73 wrote:dogbreath_48 wrote:Shadow wrote:
they also had coils ^_^
No, 78's and 79's had coils. But i thought later 75's (1993-1997?) had a smaller front diff.
Nope, only the coiled ones did.
Wrong
No worries, I can be corrected, fill us all in on what is right then please.
professor wrote:dogbreath_48 wrote:Shadow wrote:dogbreath_48 wrote:midi73 wrote:
Wont be able to swap front locker from 75 to 80
I think later model 75's you can - i think they run the smaller front diff.
they also had coils ^_^
No, 78's and 79's had coils. But i thought later 75's (1993-1997?) had a smaller front diff.
you are correct!
now back to the best option for the 75 with coils
I used to think they all had the big diff to
But looking under Bushwalkers, proved that theory wrong, apparently all 1HZ 75s had high pinion front
Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 11:09 pm
by midi73
cloughy wrote:midi73 wrote:cloughy wrote:midi73 wrote:dogbreath_48 wrote:
No, 78's and 79's had coils. But i thought later 75's (1993-1997?) had a smaller front diff.
Nope, only the coiled ones did.
Wrong
No worries, I can be corrected, fill us all in on what is right then please.
professor wrote:dogbreath_48 wrote:Shadow wrote:dogbreath_48 wrote:
I think later model 75's you can - i think they run the smaller front diff.
they also had coils ^_^
No, 78's and 79's had coils. But i thought later 75's (1993-1997?) had a smaller front diff.
you are correct!
now back to the best option for the 75 with coils
I used to think they all had the big diff to
But looking under Bushwalkers, proved that theory wrong, apparently all 1HZ 75s had high pinion front
Ok. Thank you for that correction. I will store that one in the old memory bank.
Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 11:15 pm
by cloughy
Thommo 73 wrote:im using 75 diffs with rangie arms/coil hats atm.....probley the cheapest way.
How much did the Rangie arms etc cost you??
Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 6:46 am
by professor
mac1cruz wrote:
Gday Chad just curious on what a rough estimate in dollars would be to do the conversion you did on Robs 75 parts/time?
Cheers Azza
Long live the 75 series
Azza its hard to estimate but in a round figure the basic setup 4 link coilovers hoops mounts x member and xlink is around $10k not including exhaust mods brake lines and cables.
I'm heaps keen on doing some more 75's I'v even thought of doing a 75 the same and using it as my tow rig/tourer. it makes a farm truck worth driving
sorry Rob
Chad
Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 4:51 pm
by Thommo 73
pretty cheap cloughy. as well as the chassis that i cut up to boot.
i'll be back if i need spares!.
Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 10:31 am
by bushwalker
so can i straight swap my 80 rear centre over with my 75 or do i have to swap bearings over on the crownwheel?
Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 5:19 pm
by hzj75
can someone give me a rough idea as to how much a 80 series chassis is worth (less body of course..)???
Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 12:42 am
by bubs
hzj75 wrote:can someone give me a rough idea as to how much a 80 series chassis is worth (less body of course..)???
Chassis, with suspension components and axles, no engine or gearbox
Expect to pay up to $2000.
Buddy