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1HD-T goes Kaboom.now going to sell....

Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 4:47 pm
by mud4b
yep on my way to help peter from cityveiw 4x4 park to help clean it after the storm we got 15 mins away when this horrible noise came from the engine bay..


kaboom went the 1hd-t engine in my 80 sahara. it cost me $440 to get it home to the sunshine coast (not too bad a price really), i have since found out that number 2 injector stopped working and it has melted a piston.

so im now after a 1HD-FT ? or FTE?, the multivalve engine to go in. ill be searching pickles and fowlers but i thought i might try on here to see if anyone knows of one? i think they came out of a late 80 or 79 series from memory.back to driving the shiat gu patrol now so not too happy.

cheers mark.

Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 8:59 pm
by Toli
bad luck mate.

The FT was in 95 -97 or 99 from memory and the FTE is onwards.

Good luck with the change over.

Re: 1HD-T goes Kaboom.

Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 9:28 pm
by rabmail
mud4b wrote:so im now after a 1HD-FT ? or FTE?, the multivalve engine to go in. ill be searching pickles and fowlers but i thought i might try on here to see if anyone knows of one? i think they came out of a late 80 or 79 series from memory.back to driving the shiat gu patrol now so not too happy.

cheers mark.
A few weeks ago Ryan Jantzen <ryan@citypartsplus.com.au> offered me a low time FTE engine.

Dick

Re: 1HD-T goes Kaboom.

Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 9:38 pm
by mud4b
rabmail wrote:
mud4b wrote:so im now after a 1HD-FT ? or FTE?, the multivalve engine to go in. ill be searching pickles and fowlers but i thought i might try on here to see if anyone knows of one? i think they came out of a late 80 or 79 series from memory.back to driving the shiat gu patrol now so not too happy.

cheers mark.
A few weeks ago Ryan Jantzen <ryan@citypartsplus.com.au> offered me a low time FTE engine.

Dick

hi bud.
mate cheers for that, can i ask how much? pm me if you want to.

cheers mark

Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 9:56 pm
by 80's_delirious
kaboom went the 1hd-t engine in my 80 sahara
Ouch!!

How deep are your pockets??

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/TOYOTA-LANDCRUIS ... dZViewItem

Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 10:21 pm
by mud4b
80's_delirious wrote:
kaboom went the 1hd-t engine in my 80 sahara
Ouch!!

How deep are your pockets??

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/TOYOTA-LANDCRUIS ... dZViewItem


mate i see that on there but its useless to me, it has no manifolds or injector pump or loom.. they have a 1hd-t also but dont really want to go down that path for around the same money as i can get one of these new ones for.

cheers mark

Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 10:51 pm
by mud4b
ok found a few 79 (and 78? apparently these have td also) series but have also found heaps of 100 series td.


can anyone tell me 100% how hard or why cant you use the 100 series td?

something about a code? can a auto elec get around it?i really need to know as it is thursday im heading there.

cheers mark

Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 11:38 pm
by KaMo
mud4b wrote:ok found a few 79 (and 78? apparently these have td also) series but have also found heaps of 100 series td.


can anyone tell me 100% how hard or why cant you use the 100 series td?

something about a code? can a auto elec get around it?i really need to know as it is thursday im heading there.

cheers mark
Dont ask me how but if you have a look at the figures the 79's appear to be a downrated version of the same donk in the 100's. Dunno if that has any bearing on your decision lol :D

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 1:33 pm
by bj on roids
mud4b wrote:ok found a few 79 (and 78? apparently these have td also) series but have also found heaps of 100 series td.


can anyone tell me 100% how hard or why cant you use the 100 series td?

something about a code? can a auto elec get around it?i really need to know as it is thursday im heading there.

cheers mark
if you have the dash, the wiring and the key it should all be easy enough, just put all of that in :cool:

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 6:16 pm
by mud4b
bj on roids wrote:
if you have the dash, the wiring and the key it should all be easy enough, just put all of that in :cool:

nah too much stuffing around for me bud.

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 6:23 pm
by Shadow
just go for an FT

that way youve got less electrics to worry about.

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 6:46 pm
by mud4b
Shadow wrote:just go for an FT

that way youve got less electrics to worry about.


hi bud.
mate the ft are so hard to find, but usually when you do they have higher ks an them and are around the same cost as fte.

electrics do not bother me at all.

cheers mark

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 6:54 pm
by Shadow
mud4b wrote:
Shadow wrote:just go for an FT

that way youve got less electrics to worry about.


hi bud.
mate the ft are so hard to find, but usually when you do they have higher ks an them and are around the same cost as fte.

electrics do not bother me at all.

cheers mark
ok, well do a good writeup so we can all copy you :P

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 6:58 pm
by mud4b
Shadow wrote:
mud4b wrote:
Shadow wrote:just go for an FT

that way youve got less electrics to worry about.


hi bud.
mate the ft are so hard to find, but usually when you do they have higher ks an them and are around the same cost as fte.

electrics do not bother me at all.

cheers mark
ok, well do a good writeup so we can all copy you :P

actually not a bad idea, ill do that.
cheers mark

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 7:09 pm
by ROCKRASH
Not 100% sure but I suspect that the 100series TE engine has an immobiliser from factory. May be painful.

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 8:25 pm
by 80's_delirious
bj on roids wrote:
mud4b wrote:ok found a few 79 (and 78? apparently these have td also) series but have also found heaps of 100 series td.


can anyone tell me 100% how hard or why cant you use the 100 series td?

something about a code? can a auto elec get around it?i really need to know as it is thursday im heading there.

cheers mark
if you have the dash, the wiring and the key it should all be easy enough, just put all of that in :cool:
have also read elsewhere that you need the late model instrument cluster and wiring loom. if your getting an engine from a wrecker you might be able to get all this as a package

Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 8:07 am
by mud4b
well im now scrapping the 100 series idea, ill be looking for a 79 series engine.

cheers mark

Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 8:10 am
by dow50r
for those who are members check this...
http://www.lcool.org/forum/viewtopic.ph ... highlight=
100 fte into 105...check the wiring piccy....spag everywhere
the 79 has no intercooler and no imobiliser...but it does have fancy materials in its pistons to cope with the heat....so adding an intercooler later and a chip will be worth the exercise...

Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 8:22 am
by me3@neuralfibre.com
dow50r wrote:for those who are members check this...
http://www.lcool.org/forum/viewtopic.ph ... highlight=
100 fte into 105...check the wiring piccy....spag everywhere
the 79 has no intercooler and no imobiliser...but it does have fancy materials in its pistons to cope with the heat....so adding an intercooler later and a chip will be worth the exercise...
Can you copy it somewhere and post it somewhere we can see it. Very interested in this.

Thanx
Paul

Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 2:22 pm
by dow50r
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Landcruiser-1HDF ... dZViewItem

hdfte for sale on ebay now with aurto for 11.5k...they dont miss you do they...

Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 10:30 pm
by Punchy
just a quick question...

what happened to the hdt engine ?

did you not consider repairing it ?

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 3:26 am
by Tapage
Punchy wrote:just a quick question...

what happened to the hdt engine ?

did you not consider repairing it ?
Ditto ..

The 1HD-T it's an awesome engine .. why not try to repair and get a rebuild engine that you know the history and do with quality parts ..

I'm a Cruiser guy .. but other option could be a 4BT .. also a nice engine.

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 8:37 am
by bj on roids
1HD-FTE has more tech, better components and can make more power...

Why not if you can get it cheap, do the upgrade, newer, more pimper

plus sell me the 1HD-T :armsup:

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 9:16 am
by mud4b
yeah had thought about it, it did actually turn over yesterday but has a massive knock on the top end. so it might not be as bad as first thought.


i do not want to fix it due to wanting the upgrade (have wanted this since i had my old 80 sahara so this one was always destined for it.

actually thinking of selling it now and keeping the gu since i do not go 4wding much anymore, i mainly do beach as my mates just dont go proper wheeling anymore and buying a roadcar.. just dont know what to do yet. maybe i could try selling the gu again.

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 11:02 am
by mud4b
well i found this last night but i get the feeling its sold as i cant get a reply or he wont pick up the mobile.


toyota landcruiser 2006 model 4.2lt turbo diesel complete engine, with running gear, only travelled 5,000ks, $6000.

even if its got issues or its out of a 100 series for that price its a steal.
will keep trying to get in contact with him.

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 6:47 pm
by Frankenyota
Sorry to hear about the kaboom on the 1hd-t.
Was looking at buying an 80 with a 1hd-t, but after reading and hearing
about the big end issues i'm not so sure?

The one i was going to look at had a engine rebuild 20,000kms ago.

How many kms did your engine have on it?
Did the engine give any warning several kms before its end.

Matt

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 9:04 pm
by mud4b
Frankenyota wrote:Sorry to hear about the kaboom on the 1hd-t.
Was looking at buying an 80 with a 1hd-t, but after reading and hearing
about the big end issues i'm not so sure?

The one i was going to look at had a engine rebuild 20,000kms ago.

How many kms did your engine have on it?
Did the engine give any warning several kms before its end.

Matt

hi bud.
mate id say go for it, it only costs 300 bucks for someone to drop the sump and refit new shells.as far as i know it is only the factory shells that had issues.

my engine had 396,000 on it and was due for a timing belt change, had a leaky injector pump and needed the injectors done also, yes it gave me warning but i tried to drive it to somewhere that was not in the middle of nowhere to keep it safe, that is what caused it to let go.

we have now owned 4 saharas 1hdt and 2 1hz 80 series, none have had problems besides this one and then like i said it was more due to lack of looking after.

cheers mark

Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 7:36 am
by taps
Mud4b
80 series = GEN 3

Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 10:48 am
by bj on roids
mud4b wrote:
Frankenyota wrote:Sorry to hear about the kaboom on the 1hd-t.
Was looking at buying an 80 with a 1hd-t, but after reading and hearing
about the big end issues i'm not so sure?

The one i was going to look at had a engine rebuild 20,000kms ago.

How many kms did your engine have on it?
Did the engine give any warning several kms before its end.

Matt

hi bud.
mate id say go for it, it only costs 300 bucks for someone to drop the sump and refit new shells.as far as i know it is only the factory shells that had issues.

my engine had 396,000 on it and was due for a timing belt change, had a leaky injector pump and needed the injectors done also, yes it gave me warning but i tried to drive it to somewhere that was not in the middle of nowhere to keep it safe, that is what caused it to let go.

we have now owned 4 saharas 1hdt and 2 1hz 80 series, none have had problems besides this one and then like i said it was more due to lack of looking after.

cheers mark
my 1hz is making a slight tapping (like tappets)
could it be detrimental to the engine?

Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 8:32 pm
by mud4b
adjust the tappets or when were your injectors done last?


i missed out today (intensionally) on a 79 series at pickles auctions, it started at 11,000 and sold for 14,250... nearly 200,000ks and flattened roof.

gee did the gu wagon and ute go for cheap though..