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question about boost gauge signal line location
Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 8:55 am
by 80's_delirious
HI All
I installed a boost gauge in the 80series last night and fitted the boost signal line here . . .
there was a plug in the housing here, just had to tap new thread.
Anyway after taking it for a drive when giving it lots of right boot with the turbo on boost the gauge will jump up to about 14psi then immediately drop back and settle around 10 - 12 psi.
the gauge also makes a fluttering or chattering noise as boost pressure rises and again when it falls.
I am wondering wether the gauge is affected by the signal being inconsistent coz its too close to turbo (on the turbo), will I get a more stable signal if the line is plumbed into intake crossover pipe away from turbo
Any suggestions??
cheers
Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 9:09 am
by Toy80Diesel
Mine is in the crossover pipe and doesn't flutter or peak momentarily as you have described. Although someone on here has mentioned previously having this problem. If you search, you should find it was related to a little metal piece that fits right near where you insert the pipe and it acts like a regulator for the airflow. What brand of boost gauge is it? Mine came with this regulator piece in the kit.
m
Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 9:32 am
by sloshy
Even if you have set your boost to 12psi it still will boost spike momentarily until your wastegate fully opens and it settles it to your preset pressure.
I don't think it would change wether it is beside your turbo or 2 foot away as the pressure would be consistant through to your valves.
But then again I would just try a differant location and see what happens.
Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 10:50 am
by HotFourOk
I believe it's best to locate the boost guage line closest to the intake manifold as possible. You then know how much boost is actually enetring your motor, which is what's important.
Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 8:27 pm
by me3@neuralfibre.com
Err that outlet normally sends the boost signal to the wastegate.
Where's your wastegate?
I know on a 60 you can go without but.....
Paul
Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 7:25 am
by 80's_delirious
me3@neuralfibre.com wrote:Err that outlet normally sends the boost signal to the wastegate.
Where's your wastegate?
I know on a 60 you can go without but.....
Paul
is this how its meant to be? turbo is a reco unit fitted by previous owner so I have no way of knowing whats been done.
I have fitted a new boost controller mounted to side of air cleaner. you can see the two new peices of vaccum line that are plumbed into waste gate, water cooling lines block wastegate from veiw
Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 7:04 pm
by 80's_delirious
solution found. I did a search and whatayah know I found a related thread
the VDO kit had a spare fitting in it so I silver soldered up the hole in the brass fitting. then drilled it out with a 1mm drill bit. the hole in the VDO fitting was about 3.5mm
swapped the fittings over and its all sweet.
Gauge responds quickly and smoothly and the rattly noise is gone
thanks for the input
Dave
Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 6:33 pm
by PGS 4WD
The inlet manifold is the better position as it shows engine boost, the turbo boost may be 2-5 psi higher depending on the restrictions in the intake such as intercoolers, throttle bodies(petrol) and plumbing.
Joel
Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 6:56 pm
by 80's_delirious
PGS 4WD wrote:The inlet manifold is the better position as it shows engine boost, the turbo boost may be 2-5 psi higher depending on the restrictions in the intake such as intercoolers, throttle bodies(petrol) and plumbing.
Joel
I did wonder about that when I first installed boost gauge coz gauge reading seemed to be a bit erratic. since restricting the signal line it seems to read OK.
intake pipe is stock standard, so its a pretty short run to manifold
I have tweaked the boost controller a little and wound up the boost so the peak boost was 14 psi. As soon as the gauge hits 14psi the overboost warning light comes on, pretty sure the overboost warning is triggered at 14psi. so at least they seem to correspond. factory boost/overboost signal line is plumbed into crossover pipe close to the manifold
wound the boost controller back a touch so it peaks at about 13 psi.
Dave