Outer Limits 4x4 Board

call me crazy, or it may just be that ive been drinking a lot latley but i've been thinking about alternatives to a SAS on the fron end

are there drop hubs for IFS?

havent u ever looked at a hummer?

do the h1's have them?

The Great Gonzo wrote:do the h1's have them?

Yes

I am not sure of the setup of a vitara front end; but my 4runner has IFS, and you are able to fit a spacer between the upper Ball Joint, and the Upper Control Arm.

The tension in my torsion bar stays the same (yours has coils?), so still a reasonable ride, but the whole hub assembly is pushed down (distance depending on size of spacer).

The gives you lift. So not a 'drop hub', but the hub assembly is dropped.

I am not sure if your car will allow this though.....

Stew

the zook is a coil and strut, i dont think your method would work for me...

No....

I wasn't sure of the setup of your front end.

I believe that you can get kits that lower your strut, either spacer blocks between the strut swivel point and the chassis, or even a different shaped strut altogether (like a bannana), so that the strut heads down before it extends.

Could be another option....

Stew

ive thought about that, the calmini kit replaces the lower arms too

the problem with it is that you are still running CV's at bad angles

that now opens up the idea of dropping the front diff down a bit

so many option - will have to think more (time for another beer)...

Yes, the CV's don't like angles............

The diff on my car, if needed, can be lowered easily wilth longer bolts, spacers, and moving/making a new mount on the front cross member on the lower control arm forward brackets.

Can turn into a lot of work, making a solid conversion more appropriate.........

Stew

yeah, i think that would be easier

when i had the front apart last month (see the zook section for the pics) i had some evil ideas for an SAS with coilovers

I'll eventually be going down the path of GQ front/rear diffs and coils fitted up to a Kia Sportage. As it stands everything on the front lines up nicely (spring mounts, suspension links, even an area for a panhard mount). The 80 series LC is a possibility as well, but would require a bit more work (suspension arms the wrong width) but has the advantage of (numerically) higher ratios.

seriously start with something with a SFA to begin with
the cost is just not worth it

i am positive the calmini kit drops the front diff to correct the angles....

N*A*M wrote:seriously start with something with a SFA to begin with
the cost is just not worth it

The Kia is a double wishbone coil sprung front. Something similar is already happenng in the US.

i know what the sportage is like
i sized them up already for portals

good approach and departure
decent wheelbase
nice tall rear frame arch
correct offsets

but in the end i decided it wasn't worth the money