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found a shattered spring my lux bell housing.. Pics
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 12:13 pm
by brad 93hilux
On a recient trip to the vic high country i had alot of problems selecting gears, (which i thought was a gearbox problem) but after talking to a gear box reco place found out it was the clutch that had issues.
The clutch is a heavy duty one that i installed 2 years ago and have had alot of problems with shudder (the fly wheel was machined)
This morn i decided to pull the gearbox back off and see what the problem is....
And found this spring shattered and worn inside the bellhousing.
Any one know what the spring is from/ for?
Has me stumped
Brad
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 12:29 pm
by Frankenyota
Looks like part of the clutch plate. Check the springs on the plate?
Matt
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 12:31 pm
by plowy
its a spring from the clutch center there a dampner spring fitted to absorb shock/load
start saving towards a clutch
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 12:37 pm
by v6hilux
Looks too small to be a clutch plate spring, unless it has multi-pack springs.
I had the same problem with a spring break in one of my clutch plates too. The bits fell out and jammed it from releasing.
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 12:43 pm
by brad 93hilux
the springs in the clutch are alot bigger...
This spring is around 6-7mm dia and not sure the length but there was alot of broken pieces...
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 1:11 pm
by plowy
is it runnin twin spring ,are all the springs tight/ firm fit
does the spring look new or old?
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 3:06 pm
by brad 93hilux
yes the clutch is running twin springs and the clutch springs are worn a little bit but not too bad.
The spring looks like it has been bouncing around it there a bit as it has flat spots and alot of wear marks on it.... the spring (piecs) i found looks alot smaller than the springs in the clutch itself.
Brad
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 4:06 pm
by brad 93hilux
This is the clutch and pressure plate
And the flywheel... you can see the burn marks in it and when i had a closer look it had hairline fractures in it...
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 4:27 pm
by v6hilux
How about the thrust bearing assembly?
What about the return spring for the clutch fork?
Who did the clutch install last time? Perhaps this is a nasty trick by a mechanic to get more money! (just being objective!)
Other possibility is it was a coincidence that the spring bounced off the road and into the fork hole!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 6:18 pm
by trains
its the inner springs from the clutch plate centre.
by the look of the pic posted its from the bottom left, 7 o clock spring.
T
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 6:25 pm
by brad 93hilux
v6hilux wrote:How about the thrust bearing assembly?
What about the return spring for the clutch fork?
Who did the clutch install last time? Perhaps this is a nasty trick by a mechanic to get more money! (just being objective!)
Other possibility is it was a coincidence that the spring bounced off the road and into the fork hole!!!!!!!!!!!
I installed the clutch last time and don't remember seeing and springs that looked like that...
The only other thing i can think of is the starter motor shi* itself about 6 months ago... I wonder if it came out of that.
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 6:32 pm
by tweak'e
it looks like the clutch plate springs has duel springs on 3 of the springs. ie small ones inside the bigger outer one. it looks like the top one is missing the small spring inside it, tho its hard to tell in the pic.
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 6:32 pm
by brad 93hilux
Have another look at the pic up the top of the page... I am finding it hard to believe the spring came out of the clutch itself as if you look closely the spring is small compared to my finger..
But not doubting that thats where it could have come from just Intrigued how it could have come out of inside the other spring...(its not that small)
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 7:18 pm
by brad 93hilux
tweak'e wrote:it looks like the clutch plate springs has duel springs on 3 of the springs. ie small ones inside the bigger outer one. it looks like the top one is missing the small spring inside it, tho its hard to tell in the pic.
ill have another look tomorrow but pretty sure i checked it out when the clutch first came out...
Cheers
brad
Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 5:17 am
by v6hilux
Yes, multi-pack springs are evident when looking at the picture.
Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 8:48 am
by brad 93hilux
Well i found where the spring came from....
if you have a look in the pic, right in the centre there is a small spring on the left but not on the right...
I have to wonder if this was a manufacturing prob or something that i caused?
Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 10:14 am
by plowy
buy the look of the heat marks on the flywheel it gets a good work out
and to be breaking the springs its from a hard work out
but il probably get corrected on this
Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 10:56 am
by brad 93hilux
What type of clutch do you guys reccommend to use???
4 terrain?
Safari?
Exedy?
Daiken?
maybe terrain tamer?
Cheers
Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 7:39 am
by Sic Lux
Never had a drama with the exedy clutches yet and will be putting one in mine when it blows clutch or box whatever comes first. had one in my torry it didn't have huge power but clutch had plenty of bite 3rd gear drop at 100k's and it'd give a good churp in wet give a good 1st 2nd 3rd easy.