Outer Limits 4x4 Board

What order should Mods be done in???
Body lift
Suspension uprgade
Larger wheels
Diff locks
Transfer case ratios
Engine tweaks

Can only do one at a time

Locks
tyres
bodylift
suspenion time this so that when tyres need replacing you can go bigger again.

Or

Locks
bodylift
suspension
tyres

I did mine bodylift (2 inch) first as it was easier with blocks of wood on a trolley jack to lift the body off the chassis to put the blocks in.

Then I put my suspension in (3 inch) which just meant i had to jack up the chassis and bolt them in.

Then large tyres went in (33s) - going 35's soon after i do something bout that infernal motor

Cheers
Tom

you will get 3294.4 different opinions here..

All depends on what you can afford, how long apart the mods are in time, and how serious you wanna get with your truck.

i did:

rear locker
suspension
tyres
body lift

though body lift in order to stop tyres rubbing.

bodylift
tyres
locker
suspension
bigger tyres next time round.

Suspension uprgade
Larger wheels

These two should be part parcel of each other IMO. Pointless getting suspension upgrade if you dont increase traction and lift diff height up with it. Then after you get know the truck,

Diff locks
Engine tweaks
then larger tyres and
Transfer case ratios

As Bogged said though, there is a million opinions and options available.

Bodylift
Tyres
Lockers

with mine i went,

from road tyres to AT's
suspension lift
front locker
bigger tyres

already had rear locker

First thing...simple - PLAN....
Start with what size tyres you want to run LONG TERM... Many of your other mods will revlove around what size tyres and what's required to make 'em fit & work without breaking 5hit....

Try to "overdo" things - so that you don't waste money redoing them
Mimumim lift, maximum cut to fit maximum tyre size....
The sequence will vary IMHO on just how extreme you wanna go & how much money you have to do to ...

Buy everything (Mods) then shop for the vehicle.

Its what I'm doing ATM, that way you dont compromise, you just have to fit everything and can set a plan out and stick to it.

yep decide how hardcore you want to go and go straight there. do not waste time and money for the in-betweens.

also remember, no body ever regrets buying lockers, gears or getting big tyres. they only regret flakey suspension mods and undersized tyres.

Nev

It difficult to decide how to get somewhere without knowing where you want to go! Work out how hardcore you want the finished product to be, and work back.

Around here you'll probably get lots of advice to get the biggest tyre possible, and if you're gonna do the T/C gears that's probably fair.

If this is a long term project intermediate tyres may be an option - all the suspension lift and diff locks in the world won't help if your tyres won't grip. But plan your lifts to suit the tyres you ULTIMATELY want to run.

Presuming your tyres grip, diff locks might be the best start - at least get drive to the wheels still on the ground.

I did the suspension lift first because I'm an IFS-driving weenie, and because that gets the chassis up - a body lift won't help ramp-over. A body lift will help approach and departure angles, and help protect those precious door sills.

I am planning a body lift and bigger tyres, and hope to get t/c gears, but diff lock is probably last for me, because I'm not that hard core.

My 2 cents...

Scott

Money is tight so if I was to wait till I had it all to do in one hit then I'm stuck to dirt roads for tooooo long.

Would love to go hard core but refer to the first three words above.... Hard as IFS will allow (B%&#$@ engineers designed it with spring overs for the rear then stuffed it all with IFS)

4b is LWB so need to get some height under it for ramp-over. Motor only just does the wheels on it now (28" ) so need to work on that. Why go the lockers when I aint go the clearance to really use them.

Decisions Decisions Decisions

What do I have going for me?? I own my 4b outright

Dont forget body protection.
Bash plates, bar work and sliders etc.
Helps a lot if you dont have to worry about dragging tour belly over things. Or leaning the side into a tree/rock etc.
But Lift lockers and tyres are all important just do whatever you can afford (which in my case is very little at the moment )
Paul.

Nev62 wrote:Would love to go hard core but refer to the first three words above.... Hard as IFS will allow (B%&#$@ engineers designed it with spring overs for the rear then stuffed it all with IFS)

4b is LWB so need to get some height under it for ramp-over. Motor only just does the wheels on it now (28" ) so need to work on that. Why go the lockers when I aint go the clearance to really use them.

So its IFS? What sorta car?

Doin' it hard on 28's I would do the engine first... Then worry about other things!

Back with the 93 Raider, was going to get zook for a toy but may have to give it a miss for now (had one lined up dont think I can get to pick it... work commitments ) but still want to get out there. Got a 2" lift on a side step, the front half of one that is....

Nev62 wrote:Back with the 93 Raider, was going to get zook for a toy but may have to give it a miss for now (had one lined up dont think I can get to pick it... work commitments ) but still want to get out there. Got a 2" lift on a side step, the front half of one that is....

Then the problems you will face are what mods and accessories are available for them in Aussie...

The same problems any B2600/Courier owner world-wide has

Trade it in on somthing with a few mods allready done, then its just finish off details!

Bodylift
Suspension lift
Biggest tyres that can fit
Lockers
Winch
Gearing
And in between all of these the essentials like snorkel, lights, bar, radio, protection etc.
But the most important thing of all is to learn how to drive it

I don`t believe nobody else put locks 1st.

IMO they will give you the BIGGEST performance upgrade out of all the other things put together.

Yeah when I got the rear locker I still had 31" BFG's and it made no difference in the slop, instead of spinning one rear wheel both just spun.
There was a big traction increase in the dry stuff though.
When I got the 33" muds then in the slop it was much better.
Front locker made the same difference again in the dry but not in the real slop as the BFG's just don't bite.
With the JT's I'm getting the best out of the lockers, huge traction increase plus the extra clearance (very noticeable).
I still wreckon for Victoria (my experience) tyres are the go first to bite into the slop and for clearance, the lockers will compliment the tyres.
For other states (drier) the formula would be different, all depends on the terrain you drive.
Been on a lot of trips where a rear locked car with average tyres struggles more than a unlocked vehicle with good offroad tyres particularly in slippery stuff.

First thing I got was ...Winch.......Then got it off the ground a little more....
With some bigger tires what ever would fit. Then suspension..Then Lockers
Then all the extra shiz.....But really Winch should be one of the first things
you get..Just my .02 cents

Winch? Is this about driving it or dragging it?

I went ( still doin )

Bodylift
cut 1/4's
rearbar
tranny gears
frontbar
winch
lift (still kind of doin)
then rear link moddin........next
.................................

Edit * i ve had new tyres 37" lokkers f/r , gears 4.6's , new custom tank
for about as long as ive owned the truck

But ive done things as ive acquired em kind of ( or bought em wen they were on sale ( like the tranny gears )

I wouldnt do it this way again .....................ive learnt alot

Agree with Bitsa.., pick the tyre size you want to run first then build the car around them.
Pick tyres,
Get power to use them,
Clearance and articulation, (lifts, spring and body if needed)
Lockers,
Other not so important shit.

Also locks are overated for mud conditions, won't help as much as good boots and the power to clean them.

My 2cents.