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Patrol Guru's - Advice Please

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 4:48 pm
by MereMale
I sent the wifes car to heaven and we are thinking of upgrading the patrol, if we can get the funds together and have seen 2 that might be Ok but I'm not sure which would be better.
Will be spending about 60% of time on road and not doing extreme off road. We do need a LWB as there are four children and a dog involved.

Truck One:

1996 NISSAN PATROL
GQ II RX Wagon 7st 4dr Man 5sp 4x4 2.8DT
Body Style WAGON
Badge RX
No. Doors 4
Seat Capacity 7
Series GQ II
Transmission 5sp Manual
Gear Location Floor
Steering Recirculating Ball
Engine Size 2826cc (2.8)
No. Cylinders 6
Cam Overhead Cam
Engine Cycle 4 Stroke
Engine Type Piston
Engine Code RD28T
Fuel Type Diesel
Fuel Delivery Multi-Point Injection
Method of Delivery Electronic
Induction Turbo
Power 85kW @ 4400rpm
Torque 235Nm
Gross Combination Mass 5300kg
Kerb Weight 1960kg
Gross Vehicle Mass 2800kg
Towing Braked 2500kg
Wheel Base 2970mm

Truck Two:

1997 NISSAN PATROL
GQ II DX Wagon 7st 4dr Man 5sp 4x4 4.2D
Body Style WAGON
Badge DX
No. Doors 4
Seat Capacity 7
Series GQ II
Transmission 5sp Manual
Gear Location Floor
Steering Recirculating Ball
Engine Size 4169cc (4.2)
No. Cylinders 6
Cam Pushrod
Engine Cycle 4 Stroke
Engine Type Piston
Engine Code TD42
Fuel Type Diesel
Fuel Delivery Multi-Point Injection
Method of Delivery Mechanical
Induction Aspirated
Power 85kW @ 4000rpm
Torque 264Nm
Gross Combination Mass 5300kg
Kerb Weight 2100kg
Gross Vehicle Mass 2800kg
Towing Braked 2500kg
Wheel Base 2970mm

Thanks heaps in advance for info on which would be better for our needs.

Mere

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 5:09 pm
by Hof
Truck 2 hands down.. The TD42 is a machine that will go forever :armsup:

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 6:09 pm
by Ezookiel
My choice would be the 4.2 well and truly over and above the 2.8.
They're supposed to be go forever bulletproof.

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 6:11 pm
by ST391GQ
M8...dont write off truck *1 either..
every owner who i have spoken to about the little 2.8 turbo absolutely loves them......and it has also been my observation that the majority of those that bag them out have not owned them either.
True..the bigger 4.2 diesel is a heavier and stronger engine....but is also correspondingly heavier on fuel.
either truck will give you excellent service if looked after properly....serviced regularly and thoroughly...and ....in my research on these two.....last as long as each other if not abused or thrashed.
go for the one that has best service history....is clean and looks the most well looked after....and wotever dollars yu have.
in the end it is your choice ....and if yu have a gut feeling about one or tuther...go for it.
HTH


Cheers Keith

GQ

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 6:33 pm
by MUDDY MONTY
grab the 4.2 cant go wrong

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 7:12 pm
by GQmayhem
i've a 4.2 diesel love it awesome torque off road down
low need a turbo on hilly hiways. friend had 2.8 turbo great
on hiway needed more revs off road not as much torque. both
good trucks though... :)
my 4.2 diesel has 367 000klm not been touched
gotta love it.

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 7:30 pm
by PGS 4WD
Having replaced engines and gearboxes for customers with 2.8's and never(except through abuse) a TD42, go the TD42!

Joel

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 7:57 pm
by ST391GQ
PGS 4WD wrote:Having replaced engines and gearboxes for customers with 2.8's and never(except through abuse) a TD42, go the TD42!

Joel
And I reckon the majority of those replacements would be due to incompetence/stupidity/lack of care/maintenence hey.....
Bet I,m right on this too..............


Cheers Keith

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 9:23 pm
by jet-6
Truck 2 hands down

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 9:45 pm
by Yom
ST391GQ wrote: True..the bigger 4.2 diesel is a heavier and stronger engine....but is also correspondingly heavier on fuel.
Mine uses around 12L/100km. Pretty bloody good...

But I agree, most people who bash the little 2.8L have never owned one yet alone driven one. YES you need to be on the go pedal a bit mroe than a TD42 but thats easily fixed. The RD28T can be given some decent powerups with not much effort and wont affect reliability (exhaust and dump pipe, intercooler, proper tune)

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 9:53 pm
by bogged
Yom wrote:
ST391GQ wrote: True..the bigger 4.2 diesel is a heavier and stronger engine....but is also correspondingly heavier on fuel.
Mine uses around 12L/100km. Pretty bloody good...

But I agree, most people who bash the little 2.8L have never owned one yet alone driven one. YES you need to be on the go pedal a bit mroe than a TD42 but thats easily fixed. The RD28T can be given some decent powerups with not much effort and wont affect reliability (exhaust and dump pipe, intercooler, proper tune)
can get good powerups on the 4.2 as well.



4.2 hands down.