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tech Q for winch competitors
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 8:57 am
by 1MadEngineer
A few tech Q's for actual winch challenge competitors. I have designed and built comercial winchs before so i have a very good undertanding of the true performance calculations, but i would love some real world feedback of 4wds.
what would be an average loaded line pull in a comp situation, basically are they up a hill with part traction and only really requiring 2000-3000lb ??
and muddy bog holes with resoanable drive would 4000lb be an average figure.
(i still understand a minimum of 9000lb would also be required)
would being able to spool in/out at 50-60M/min ( and @ upto 500lb load) be alright instead of an easy free spool ALA highmount ??
has anyone ever done any REAL testing on there winchs to check performance?? after mods?
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 10:55 am
by STIKA
What do you mean by real testing?
I have done a bit of testing using dynometers and some of the figures you are talking about are correct.
But if you are pulling up over a pinch or crest and can't get you rope high enough your loads increase drastically and some time to the levels as if you were lifting the entire vehicle weight
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 11:10 am
by 1MadEngineer
thanks brett, i didnt think i would be too far out.
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 12:00 pm
by bru21
at obc we got so stuck took 1.5 hours and 3 low mounts doing double line pulls and a tractor to get us out.
so thats 18000 x 3 + a tractor - med size jonn deer
so how does 54000 lbs + a tractor sound?
That said truck weighed 2980kg fully loaded inc drivers and a std highmount with 6hp, and reduced drum pulled us up the winch wall reasonalbly well. It was maxed out though.
cheers bru
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 1:10 pm
by 1MadEngineer
bru21 wrote:
That said truck weighed 2980kg fully loaded inc drivers and a std highmount with 6hp, and reduced drum pulled us up the winch wall reasonalbly well. It was maxed out though.
so this was a std highmount (6hp) pulling ~8-9000lb @ ~2-3m/min??
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 2:20 pm
by turps
bru21 wrote:at obc we got so stuck took 1.5 hours and 3 low mounts doing double line pulls and a tractor to get us out.
so thats 18000 x 3 + a tractor - med size jonn deer
so how does 54000 lbs + a tractor sound?
That said truck weighed 2980kg fully loaded inc drivers and a std highmount with 6hp, and reduced drum pulled us up the winch wall reasonalbly well. It was maxed out though.
cheers bru
Wouldnt have said it was a Med size. More like an over size ride with Aircon.
But that was a hard pull.
Also I wouldnt say Viewmont mud is your normal winch challenge mud. As most winch challenges there is a bottom to the bog hole. That lagoon had no bottom.
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 8:01 pm
by ludacris
It depends on where you are competing. If in xwc then they are pulls with traction most of the time.
LudaCris